Alpha SSl Certs

A new thread because we were getting a bit off track from Indy’s thread.




[quote name=‘Noman’]AlphaSSL office is 5min walk away from my place and I know Gareth in person. If someone is interested how to become a reseller or needs a personal touch, PM me.[/QUOTE]



Noman,



I once accidently set up an ssl cert incorrectly and while it worked fine,

visitors to www.mysite received error messages…



So the idea of a cert that goes both ways is interesting, also the extra abilities with mobile devices is very interesting.



I get many messages from hand held devices



Tell us a little about Gareth he sounds like a genius in terms of setting for mobile abilities which is becoming more popular.



Any drawbacks for Alpha certs?



Have you gone over to them?

Please check your PM. Details sent.



AlphaSSL is OK, but on a long run, I found ENOM cheaper and easier to manage. That’s why no longer with them. The 10$ SSL from ENOM works perfect with any mobile devices. We have Samsungs with WinMobile 6, iPhones and HTC Hero. All of them wotk perfectly with DirectPush from MS Exchange. Also, OWA and remote Outlook work perfectly.

[quote name=‘Noman’]Please check your PM. Details sent.



AlphaSSL is OK, but on a long run, I found ENOM cheaper and easier to manage. That’s why no longer with them. The 10$ SSL from ENOM works perfect with any mobile devices. We have Samsungs with WinMobile 6, iPhones and HTC Hero. All of them work perfectly with DirectPush from MS Exchange. Also, OWA and remote Outlook work perfectly.[/quote]





Interesting, so the old standard $10 Rapid SSL will work with mobile devices.



Good news.



Now the last point is the www and non www webaddress that Alpha seems to have covered. Will our trusty old Rapidssl now do the same? As it did not in the past.

I register SSL for www.domain.xxx and then, in my CPanel, I go to Redirections and I set the permanent one to redirect all non-www to www. That’s all.

[quote name=‘Noman’]Please check your PM. Details sent.



AlphaSSL is OK, but on a long run, I found ENOM cheaper and easier to manage. That’s why no longer with them. The 10$ SSL from ENOM works perfect with any mobile devices. We have Samsungs with WinMobile 6, iPhones and HTC Hero. All of them wotk perfectly with DirectPush from MS Exchange. Also, OWA and remote Outlook work perfectly.[/QUOTE]



Hello Folks,



Let’s continue…



ENOM:



Noman sent a message in the other tread about SSL certificates from ENOM:

[url]http://www.enom.com/secure/geotrust-ssl-certificates.aspx[/url]



tHE CHEAPEST one costs 9,95 ([url]eNom - domain name, web site hosting, email, registration ) . It is called RapidSSL.



I think the big difference in price is because Noman founded ENOM in 2004 (HEHEHEHE).

In my case, Enom’s price for registration domain are not cheaper than DreamHost (the server provider I have used).

Noman said about 6,00$ or something like that. Really very nice.



Noman, is this geoTrust rapidSSL certificate from ENOM a chained one?





Well, we are talking about SSL CERTIFICATES, let’s see others options:







DREAMHOST (I think this will only work for people who use DreamHOst…)



I have read wiki page about $15.00 for 1 year in a SSL certificate from Comodo.

[url]http://wiki.dreamhost.com/Secure_Hosting[/url]



The certificate is purchased from Comodo. Their logo information can be

obtained here:



[url]Site Seals - Powered by Kayako Help Desk Software



DreamHost says you’re welcome to use any compatible certificate (Apache2 with mod_ssl is the certificate type.)



ABOUT SSL SEAL from Comodo, you can see they are just IMAGES. Nothing else. If you click in it it will not show any information. THIS IS NOT A GOOD THING.



I asked them what of Comodos certificate they provides, they answered:

We offer the InstantSSL certificate. It doesn’t come with all the extras listed on their site though, it’s just the certificate.”



I asked them:

“Is your COMODO certificate a chained (more secure) one”?



They haven’t answered me yet.





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StartSSL

I think this is the cheapest one (untill now). They have free certificates, but a problem about BROWSER support.







[url]Notice to all StartCom subscribers



It is FREE.

And give you a SEAL in the footer.





If you take a look in this website you can see they compare and this one is FREE and has U$ 10,000 in warranty and Comodo U$ 0



[url]http://www.sslshopper.com/cheapest-s...tificates.html[/url]



It is a chained one.





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AlphaSSL



[url]http://www.dynadot.com/ssl/alphassl.html[/url]

COST: 11.99





AlphaSSL is owned by GlobalSign, the second oldest Certificate Authority (CA) next to VeriSign. As they are the second oldest CA, their SSL certificates are recognized by 99% of all web browsers.



AlphaSSL certificates are chained certificates. This means they provide the same level of acceptance but with a higher level of security than single-root certificates such as RapidSSL. In fact, Paypal uses a chained certificate for their own website.






[QUOTE]Originally Posted by Noman View Post

Please check your PM. Details sent.



AlphaSSL is OK, but on a long run, I found ENOM cheaper and easier to manage. That’s why no longer with them. The 10$ SSL from ENOM works perfect with any mobile devices. We have Samsungs with WinMobile 6, iPhones and HTC Hero. All of them work perfectly with DirectPush from MS Exchange. Also, OWA and remote Outlook work perfectly.[/QUOTE]





So, we have a cheaper ssl certificate with a good difference.

But is it chained or not?



Noman, could you show how ssl certificate SEAL (from enom) looks in a website?





:slight_smile:

Hi,



please vote for a new thread: [URL]http://forum.cs-cart.com/showthread.php?t=15381[/URL]

I just heard another point of view about root vs chained certs.:



Root certificates are safer as if a provider changes the root of a chained cert. your chained SSL cert will not work until you upload a new root for the chained certificate.



I heard that this has already happened with Godaddy once.



Now to be fair what is the argument for chained certs. being safer?



If we follow Nomans idea of redirecting to avoid the www vs no www problem and listen to his experience of no problem with the mobile devices combined with the possible superior safety of a single root cert than the US $10 (not Euros0 rapid ssl cerst seem to be a winner.

Hi dragondf,



I think in your case is not important if “root or not root” as you will spend for your cert not more than $10 :stuck_out_tongue:

Traveler, check your PM.

Noman, could you show how ssl certificate SEAL (from enom) looks in a website?

Dragon



I’ve never said I have a seal on my website. The SSL with seal would cost me 99$ and I don’t need it. I use the one for 10$. However, I have sent to Traveler 5 websites to check with 10$ SSL from Enom and 49$ from AlphaSSL installed.



The one with seal is a QuickSSL Premium. See here, how to install it

[url]http://www.geotrust.com/support/quick-ssl-support/premium-true-site-seal/[/url]



And see how it works here [below PayPal logo]

[url]http://www.clickssl.com/geotrust/quick-ssl-premium.aspx[/url]

[quote name=‘Noman’]Dragon



I’ve never said I have a seal on my website. The SSL with seal would cost me 99$ and I don’t need it. I use the one for 10$. However, I have sent to Traveler 5 websites to check with 10$ SSL from Enom and 49$ from AlphaSSL installed.



The one with seal is a QuickSSL Premium. See here, how to install it

[url]http://www.geotrust.com/support/quick-ssl-support/premium-true-site-seal/[/url]



And see how it works here [below PayPal logo]

[url]http://www.clickssl.com/geotrust/quick-ssl-premium.aspx[/url][/QUOTE]





So, if I want to use a GeoTrust seal I will need to buy a PREMIUM version. Is it?



If not… just the CERTIFICATE (10$) you can not insert any seal?



In this case I can create ONE SEAL…hehehe.





I cut the image of the seal.






[QUOTE]I’ve never said I have a seal on my website.[/QUOTE]

Neither me.

seal1.jpg

Yes Dragon, you can insert the seal. There are two available, one statis and an animated one.

[quote name=‘Noman’]Dragon



I’ve never said I have a seal on my website. The SSL with seal would cost me 99$ and I don’t need it. I use the one for 10$. However, I have sent to Traveler 5 websites to check with 10$ SSL from Enom and 49$ from AlphaSSL installed.



The one with seal is a QuickSSL Premium. See here, how to install it

[URL]http://www.geotrust.com/support/quick-ssl-support/premium-true-site-seal/[/URL]



And see how it works here [below PayPal logo]

[URL]http://www.clickssl.com/geotrust/quick-ssl-premium.aspx[/URL][/quote]





Here is the Alpha at $11.95

Installation should not be an issue as most web hosts do installation for free

[URL]http://www.dynadot.com/ssl/about.html[/URL]



Seals are interesting as many seem to feel that they can help a bit. But do you lose sales based on lost space? Possible. Also whose seal does nor seem to matter much. Example it could be better business seal or perhaps a self created seal from Dragon designs.

[quote name=‘indy0077’]Hi dragondf,



I think in your case is not important if “root or not root” as you will spend for your cert not more than $10 :p[/quote]



Speaking of certs for $10 can you clarify for us the price on your $10 cert. Is it in US dollars or Euros?



If in dollars it is a normal price available to all - but i will consider ordering from you since you are a forum member.



If your price is in Euros it is roughly 50%+ higher than the normal price…

[quote name=‘Traveler’]Speaking of certs for $10 can you clarify for us the price on your $10 cert. Is it in US dollars or Euros?



If in dollars it is a normal price available to all - but i will consider ordering from you since you are a forum member.



If your price is in Euros it is roughly 50%+ higher than the normal price…[/QUOTE]



Hello Traveler,



I do not know if I undertand what you want to know…



If you want to know about this certificate that Noman talked about you can see the link in the quote:


[QUOTE]Noman sent a message in the other tread about SSL certificates from ENOM:

[url]http://www.enom.com/secure/geotrust-ssl-certificates.aspx[/url]



tHE CHEAPEST one costs 9,95 ([url]eNom - domain name, web site hosting, email, registration ) . It is called RapidSSL and it is from GEOTRUST.[/QUOTE]



It is 9.95 dollars.

This one (from Noman) is from GeoTrust and this one: [url]http://www.dynadot.com/ssl/about.html[/url] is from RapidSSL. I am not sure, but I think GeoTrust is more known than RapidSSL company. And 9.95 is less than 15.99



In this case, we can see a dynamic image from RapidSSL certificate.

In past post I attached one image from GeoTrust (Noman talked about) ssl certificate and he said it can be dynamic or static.


[QUOTE]Example it could be better business seal or perhaps a self created seal from Dragon designs.[/QUOTE]

I think the same. But one thing I think is interesting is the costumer click in the banner and see something showing that website do has a SSL Certificate and not just the IMAGE.





:slight_smile:

Dragon,



The question was for Indy about her $10 price



She mentioned a special CS cart price



Rapid SSL is what i have used with zero problems.



I do not use seals as I do not like the look and do not feel that they would help our sales at all.

[quote name=‘Traveler’]Dragon,



The question was for Indy about her $10 price



She mentioned a special CS cart price



Rapid SSL is what i have used with zero problems.



I do not use seals as I do not like the look and do not feel that they would help our sales at all.[/quote]

The price is now updated to USD in our Special Promo Thread: [URL]http://forum.cs-cart.com/showthread.php?t=15392[/URL]



I don’t know any company on web which sell RapidSSL for $10 except eNom there you have to make deposit of $100.

[quote name=‘indy0077’]The price is now updated to USD in our Special Promo Thread: [URL]http://forum.cs-cart.com/showthread.php?t=15392[/URL]



I don’t know any company on web which sell RapidSSL for $10 except eNom there you have to make deposit of $100.[/QUOTE]



Indy,



Thank you for your update.



It looks like if someone wanted a Rapid SSl cert. for only one year you have a good price today, although your standard price seems quite high. I pay no attention to the suggested retail price.



I always buy 5 or more years at a time so that is no problem, so Enom is quite a bit cheaper than your prices it seems.



To be fair to you what is your price for 10 years? Can you match the $100 price. Note I am not asking you to beat the price only match the price.

[quote name=‘Traveler’]Indy,



Thank you for your update.



It looks like if someone wanted a Rapid SSl cert. for only one year you have a good price today, although your standard price seems quite high. I pay no attention to the suggested retail price.



I always buy 5 or more years at a time so that is no problem, so Enom is quite a bit cheaper than your prices it seems.



To be fair to you what is your price for 10 years? Can you match the $100 price. Note I am not asking you to beat the price only match the price.[/quote]



No, the price is not to high. Did you compare with e.g. 10 other companies? Do it, and post here the average price.



Here are just a few of my research:



$17.95

$19.95

£30.00

$19.95

$19.99

$17.95

$10.95

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Our Price: $14



Sorry, but I will not compare our prices with some other “resellers” here what don’t know the main terms of a product. RapidSSL can’t be offered for more as 5 years. I don’t know where this idea comes from.



If you will find any company which offers less then $9.90 let me know. I will make a business with them.