Running an older version of cs-cart because of the changes made, 1.3.4-sp3.
Originally all my orders had VAT/TAX added because I was selling within the UK to general customers only; however, since then, I've started selling to non-EU countries, and EU-VAT registered businesses.
I've got around this for years by just refunding the customer back the VAT/TAX and adjusting the invoice/order, but the problem is that some of my customers get charged (for conversion) on the refund; and some just don't like paying more than they should on a promise of a refund; so isn't an ideal solution.
At present I have the “price includes tax” ticked in the 'manage taxes' menu, and I have “show price includes taxes” unticked in the 'appearance' menu, plus have changed the language wording of 'price' to “Price (inc vat)”.
This has always ensured the price shown on the website gives the total price, as is customary in the UK.
Unfortunately I cannot think of a way of it showing without VAT for those customers I registered and tick the 'vat exempt' box.
I tried reverting back and whilst I could tailor the fonts etc so the net price isn't big and inc vat price isn't small, I come across an issue in the basket page because it seems to default to the net price, which isn't acceptable.
I know all this probably makes little sense, but has anyone else come across this and found a decent solution?
Not sure it it is the same but mine is set as in screenshot, 2.1.4, and i have price displayed WITHOUT tax and then the vat shows underneath.
John
Yeah, that wouldn't work best in the UK where the inc vat price must be most obvious; plus using that method reverts to a net price on the basket, rather than a subtotal inc vat which is annoying.
It is a little frustrating as all I want it to show is the price inc vat when a general customer buys, or the price exc vat when a registered trade customer buys (with the vat exempt box ticked).
The only real time I need the vat value to be shown is for general customers on the final checkout page summary, and invoice.
Not sure if this will help but have a look at this addon: http://www.cs-cart.seonid.com/cs-cart-addons/display-prices-including-taxes-as-primary.html
John
Thanks but it is for newer versions and doesn't give much information.
I've actually found a workaround. It has taken me a few hours of playing so I can't give a detailed run-through, but essentially I've created another membership group, created a price for each product in that group effectively excluding vat, the changed a few 'lang' references to price so they state “Trade price” with no indication of whether vat is included or not until the final checkout page which is fine.
However, it would be fantastic if there was a way of it either saying “Trade price (inc vat)” or “Trade price (exc vat)” but the only way I can think of doing this given my setup would be with an {else} code for when the 'vat exempt' box is ticked in the users profile. Question is, does anyone know what the varible might be? I'm using this to general the lang.our_price reference…
{else}
{if $product.list_price > $product.price && !($settings.Modules.product_configurator == 'Y' && $product.product_type == 'C')}{$lang.our_price}{else}{$lang.price}{/if}: {include file="common_templates/price.tpl" value=$product.price span_id="original_price_`$product.product_id`"}
{/if}
…but would love it if I could use for example lang.our_price_exc_vat for when the vat exempt box is ticked.
Any thoughts?
There is a VAT solution for EU shop owners and sell products B2B also.
http://www.cs-cart.seonid.com/cs-cart-addons/cs-cart-intra-community-vat-number.html
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Not sure it it is the same but mine is set as in screenshot, 2.1.4, and i have price displayed WITHOUT tax and then the vat shows underneath.
John
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hi, can you please explain me how/where this you get this configuration screen… this is exactly what i need.
TIA
mickael
Seonids solution would be ideal. Maybe they can adapt it for the old cs-cart.
If not, maybe you customers can register on your shop first, so you can check the box tax exempt. A lot of wholesale shops work that way.
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hi, can you please explain me how/where this you get this configuration screen… this is exactly what i need.
TIA
mickael
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see screen shot, in admin appearance
John
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see screen shot, in admin appearance
John
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Thank you for your help, however, i cannot find the screen in the admin… please help, BTW, which version do you run?
Hi John, i found the place you mentioned in your screenshot… but it did help… i guess i have a bug there ;-(…
or maybe, i dont understand the part “if your taxes are based on unit price”… is there a way to configure that part?
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Hi John, i found the place you mentioned in your screenshot… but it did help… i guess i have a bug there ;-(…
or maybe, i dont understand the part “if your taxes are based on unit price”… is there a way to configure that part?
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It could also depend on your location. Try visiting your shop as a guest… play around with the settings a bit, and it will probably work.
My tax calculation is based on sub total, you will fond this settings>general
John