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Posted 20 November 2019 - 03:00 PM #1

I like many others have not upgraded our live store which is on V4.9.3 but I am trying to keep up to date on my dev sites as there are many new issues since V4.10.X. Well, starting with V4.11.1 CSC has stripped away all options for an image viewer. We are now left with OwlCarousel which is at least based on appearance is horrible.

 

This is from their blog post.

[*] Image galleries: Outdated galleries (FancyBox, MagnificPopup, prettyPhoto, Lightbox) were removed.

 

I am not going to suggest that any of the removed ones were any better the other and we all had probably used different ones for different reasons. Still, I think we should have some kind of choice here. Anyhow, OwlCarousel presents terrible on a PC. No ALT info and the window is enormous. I'd really like to get the Alt info back and the bordering of the image leaves lots to be desired.

 

I have played around with CSS and have not been successful making adjustments to the window.

 

FYI: For those that have not yet upgraded to V4.11.1. It has issues and is not considered stable in my mind (As does V4.10x). Still, I am trying to roll with the punches and so I am ready when the CSC fixes the issues. Maybe that will be with V4.12.X or maybe I will move to another platform. I am getting tired of the recent decisions on the direction of CSC. Anyhow, off my soapbox. Any, input on OWLCarousel is appreaciated.

 

Thanks

Ken

 

 



 
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Posted 20 November 2019 - 07:00 PM #2

This is good point. I don't understand why is removing outdated stuff without adding alternatives or new updated. 



 
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Posted 20 November 2019 - 08:09 PM #3

The funny thing is that the title of this post is not correct. To be specific, cs-cart uses OwlCarousel v1. The latest version is v2.3.4 and on the github page of the project (https://github.com/O...l2/OwlCarousel2) there is this information:

 

 

 

YEAH SO THIS IS PRETTY MUCH DEAD, DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND SWITCH TO tiny-slider

 

Calling OwlCarousel "New" is a misuse :P

 

 

Jokes aside, why don't you add e.g. swiperjs (https://github.com/n...its4web/Swiper/) or slick (https://github.com/kenwheeler/slick). In my opinion it's always good to stick with the projects which has huge support of the community. Both of the above mentioned solutions have about 24 000 stars on github.



 
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Posted 21 November 2019 - 04:11 PM #4

Guess CSC wants everyone's carts built around a bar bones solution that causes everyone to invest lots of money and time fixing it. Perhaps that is more profitable for them. Otherwise there is no explanation for these changes.



 
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Posted 22 November 2019 - 05:25 AM #5

Whole cscat demo store looks old fashioned..

 
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Posted 22 November 2019 - 12:01 PM #6

Guess CSC wants everyone's carts built around a bar bones solution that causes everyone to invest lots of money and time fixing it. Perhaps that is more profitable for them. Otherwise there is no explanation for these changes.


That's actually not the case. We'd like to make the default CS-Cart as useful as possible to as wide of an audience as possible, without the need of extra spendings on custom development. On the other hand, it's impossible to implement everything in one go. That's why we have to set priorities and do some things first and other things second. Different clients have different demands, some of which are harder to implement than others. Deciding what to do next is always a tough decision because we have to find balance between different requests. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. There are many other technical factors involved, such as backward compatibility and the complexity of subsequent maintenance.

I know this explanation doesn't solve the problem raised in the first post. But I hope it at least gives a better idea as to why things as they are.

About the issue with OwlCarousel in particular. Of all the image viewers that existed in CS-Cart by default, OwlCarousel was the only one that adhered to modern web requirements. Other default viewers were at a disadvantage to OwlCarousel (for example, they didn't support swiping on touch-enabled devices), and that's why they were removed.

There are plans to look into adding other image viewers. Currently, it's planned for December, unless something changes.

 
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Posted 22 November 2019 - 12:44 PM #7

I would like to give you advice, sell your products and services you got on www.cs-cart.com on exactly same 1:1 theme as demo.cs-cart.com this way you would be more likely to improve your main product..

 

 

 

That's actually not the case. We'd like to make the default CS-Cart as useful as possible to as wide of an audience as possible, without the need of extra spendings on custom development. On the other hand, it's impossible to implement everything in one go. That's why we have to set priorities and do some things first and other things second. Different clients have different demands, some of which are harder to implement than others. Deciding what to do next is always a tough decision because we have to find balance between different requests. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. There are many other technical factors involved, such as backward compatibility and the complexity of subsequent maintenance.

I know this explanation doesn't solve the problem raised in the first post. But I hope it at least gives a better idea as to why things as they are.

About the issue with OwlCarousel in particular. Of all the image viewers that existed in CS-Cart by default, OwlCarousel was the only one that adhered to modern web requirements. Other default viewers were at a disadvantage to OwlCarousel (for example, they didn't support swiping on touch-enabled devices), and that's why they were removed.

There are plans to look into adding other image viewers. Currently, it's planned for December, unless something changes.



 
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Posted 23 November 2019 - 05:25 AM #8

There are plans to look into adding other image viewers. Currently, it's planned for December, unless something changes.

 

The real issue is that you stripped away applications that people were using without providing a good alternative. V4.9.3, the most recent usable version, of CSC, doesn't even have the very outdated Owlcarousel. We all, were using something else that is now gone and most of us probably feel our previous choice was better. Then you state you are looking at bringing in an alternative in December. I am astonished, that you would not make the change all at once. It just doesn't make sense. It is like saying oops i'm sorry we'll fix it. V4.10.x and 4.11.x thus far have had so many disappointments. You guys really need to get things back on track. We all depend on you to provide a solid foundation for all of our businesses. Not many of us are feeling warm and fuzzy right now.

 

Thanks

Ken