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Posted 23 November 2016 - 02:02 PM #1

What are your thoughts, is it worth switching not just cart checkout profile places SSL enabled to whole site?

Have you done this already?

How does this switch impacts search results?

How does cs-cart handle links after this switch?

What steps should be done in case to avoid any punishment from google..



 
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Posted 23 November 2016 - 07:39 PM #2

If any development was done correctly (using URL's generated via fn_url()) then there is no problem.

Eg. href="{"example.com/some_page.html"|fn_url}"

 

 If you have static links in descriptions or other hand entered data as html, then you should go through all of them an change any reference of 'http://' to '//'.  That will ensure that the link will take on the protocol of the parent page.  Otherwise some browsers will complain about "insecure content on page".

 

All you need to do is to Select the "Secure full site" box on the Settings/Security page and also check the secure admin checkbox as well.

 

It should NOT impact any search result other than your ranking will go up slightly due to Google's preference for https sites.


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Posted 24 November 2016 - 09:51 AM #3

What are your thoughts, is it worth switching not just cart checkout profile places SSL enabled to whole site?

 

 

Hello. It's absolutely right choice.

 

You should switch your website from HTTP to HTTPS for several reasons:

 

- Security is very important for privacy on the Internet.

- Google is flavoring websites which uses HTTPS.

- SSL/TLS allow use to use HTTP/2, that faster than HTTP/1.1.

- SSL/TLS protect your website from ISP, who sniff unencrypted HTTP traffic for tracking or advertising purposes (in some cases they're inject javascript code to the website to show a banner).

- Many modern browsers have intentions for marking insecure pages in near future.

 

But security has their own price.

- Providing security means higher CPU consumption (1-4% overhead) in comparison with unencrypted HTTP. 

- SSL/TLS handshake without optimizations required 2-RTT (propagation times between the two points of a signal and back again). Fortunately, we have some tricks to decrease delay by 1-RTT. 

 

Have you done this already?

How does this switch impacts search results?

How does cs-cart handle links after this switch?

What steps should be done in case to avoid any punishment from google..

 

 

For example, all our web services in production already uses HTTPS protocol, moreover, we recommend to use HTTPS to all our clients. As @tbirnseth said, if your development was done properly, then there is no any problems.



 

Posted 07 January 2017 - 02:56 PM #4

I switched my site from http to https last summer. At that point I had 944 pages indexed in Google. Today I have 35 pages indexed in Google.

 

What did I do wrong?



 

Posted 07 January 2017 - 03:01 PM #5

I just checked my sitemap. All the URLs in the site map were http. I went into the sitemap add-on and told it to regenerate the sitemap. Now all the URLs are https.

 

Was that the problem? 

 

I don't recall seeing anything about that in the documentation concerning switching to https. 

 

If you have any thoughts about this, post them.



 
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Posted 07 January 2017 - 03:48 PM #6

did you submit a new site to google for the https site? google will slowly drop the old site, and pick up on the new site quickly if you redirected 301 properly, what version are you on Kingsley


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Posted 07 January 2017 - 03:49 PM #7

No. I assumed Google will keep looking at the same sitemap, and notice that all the URLs have change to https.

 

Wrong again?



 
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Posted 07 January 2017 - 03:52 PM #8

submit a new site in webmaster tools for the https site, it will pick up in days

see mine

http://prntscr.com/dsn0tp


also search google for site:http://yoursite.comand site https://yoursite.com


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Posted 07 January 2017 - 03:54 PM #9

But I don't want the http urls indexed do I?

 

I thought the whole point of switching to https was because Google likes those better.



 
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Posted 07 January 2017 - 03:55 PM #10

no I was saying that to show you the drop in one and increase in other, the http site in wm tools of mine is the old one

 

i meant for you just to search google for them thats all, you dont have to

I made the same mistake as you last year.

 

https://moz.com/comm...webmaster-tools

 

https://support.goog...r/6073543?hl=en


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Posted 07 January 2017 - 03:59 PM #11

http://prntscr.com/dsn3om


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Posted 07 January 2017 - 04:02 PM #12

Well that's interesting.

 

So why is my Google Webmaster account showing only 35 pages indexed?



 
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Posted 07 January 2017 - 04:03 PM #13

? strange, but you still need to set up an https version in your wm tools, probably because you still only have http site registered on there


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Posted 07 January 2017 - 04:04 PM #14

OK thanks. 

 

I guess we'll see what happens in a few days, now that all the URLs are corrected in the sitemap.



 
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Posted 08 January 2017 - 10:28 AM #15

Yes you need to create https version in webmaster tools, also sitemap has to be re generated and re submitted.

 

You should not expect very fast indexation from google, they save approx 300 pages a month!

 

For what I feel my rankings have dropped according to some keywords..



 
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Posted 09 January 2017 - 07:35 AM #16

Yes you need to create https version in webmaster tools, also sitemap has to be re generated and re submitted.

 

You should not expect very fast indexation from google, they save approx 300 pages a month!

 

For what I feel my rankings have dropped according to some keywords..

 

Ranking drop has nothing to do with switching to SSL protocol for your site, that is another issue entirely :-)



 
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Posted 09 January 2017 - 07:48 AM #17

When you add https version of site google does not take it as 1:1 copy, they re index all from scratch, while your http version in no longer accessible.. Sure it does impact..

 

Ranking drop has nothing to do with switching to SSL protocol for your site, that is another issue entirely :-)



 
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Posted 09 January 2017 - 07:56 AM #18

When you add https version of site google does not take it as 1:1 copy, they re index all from scratch, while your http version in no longer accessible.. Sure it does impact..

then you should be passing the link juice from your http to https links ;-) as I said not exactly the effect of switching but another issue about SEO management and best practices when migrating any link structures expect 'some ranking influences negatively'. It's a broader subject than just 'switching http to https' is my point :-)



 
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Posted 09 January 2017 - 07:13 PM #19

then you should be passing the link juice from your http to https links ;-) as I said not exactly the effect of switching but another issue about SEO management and best practices when migrating any link structures expect 'some ranking influences negatively'. It's a broader subject than just 'switching http to https' is my point :-)

Yes, it is all handled by a 301 redirect but Kingsleypress is saying he didnt set up HTTPS in WM tools.

There is still a small transition window, that can fluctuate even with 301, but my 4500 pages were all indexed in about 7 days, we did notice a small drop of for a few weeks.


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Posted 10 January 2017 - 08:31 AM #20

Yes, it is all handled by a 301 redirect but Kingsleypress is saying he didnt set up HTTPS in WM tools.

There is still a small transition window, that can fluctuate even with 301, but my 4500 pages were all indexed in about 7 days, we did notice a small drop of for a few weeks.

Small drop expected as I have said :-) but it isnt the result of HTTP to HTTPS entirely :-)