I have been testing out the new version of CS-Cart v3.1.1 and it is wonderful. I was wondering when can I start testing it out on my local machine with the alpha build. I will happily submit bugs.
I have already found a few in the labs section:[list]
[]Store mode prompt won't go away [[size=3]have to use “Tygh.$('.ui-dialog').remove()” in Firebug to remove it[/size]]
[]Feedback button miss aligned [size=3][/admin.php?dispatch=sales_reports.add.$('.ui-dialog').remove()][/size]
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Tygh.$('.ui-dialog').remove()
Tygh.$('.ui-dialog').remove()"
I found a few others but I haven't started tracking them.
I seen a comment in the bug tracker a few days ago which stated a particular bug would be fixed in 3.0.6, so would expect to see 3.0.6 released before we see an RC build of 3.1.1. No official dates given for either releases yet.
The labs build was useable until recently due to the bug you mentioned - the store mode pop-up won't close and continually pops up on each page load. I also find the font used really annoying - it brings back the same design appeal of the '90s.
I'd rather see something of near production quality before an RC is released, and then the vast majority, if not all, of the bugs reported from the beta version to be fixed before the public release. We can have dreams, too.
I'm okay with there being bugs, I am more then happy to help with them. I'm a developer and would really like to see more on the new code structuring. I really like what this doc [[url=“https://github.com/moigagoo/cs-cart-docs/blob/master/new_folder_structure.md”]https://github.com/moigagoo/cs-cart-docs/blob/master/new_folder_structure.md[/url]] is talking about. I'm not looking for a RC, they development, from what I have seen, has reached that point. Thats whay I was inquiring about an alpha build. I don't even need a proper install wizard, I can import a database dump.
[quote name='Torann81' timestamp='1360532844' post='154863']
I'm okay with there being bugs, I am more then happy to help with them. I'm a developer and would really like to see more on the new code structuring. I really like what this doc [[url=“https://github.com/moigagoo/cs-cart-docs/blob/master/new_folder_structure.md”]https://github.com/m...er_structure.md[/url]] is talking about. I'm not looking for a RC, they development, from what I have seen, has reached that point. Thats whay I was inquiring about an alpha build. I don't even need a proper install wizard, I can import a database dump.
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Hi,
This is merely a testing repo, for me try the format of the docs (which are coming up in the future). I am glad to know, even this small try-out has been useful and caught somebody's eye.
I am going to move that doc to the official docs at docs.cs-cart.com, along with some more developer info about CS-Cart 3.1.1.
Thanks!
[quote name='Torann81' timestamp='1360532844' post='154863']
I'm okay with there being bugs, I am more then happy to help with them. I'm a developer and would really like to see more on the new code structuring. I really like what this doc [[url=“https://github.com/moigagoo/cs-cart-docs/blob/master/new_folder_structure.md”]https://github.com/m...er_structure.md[/url]] is talking about. I'm not looking for a RC, they development, from what I have seen, has reached that point. Thats whay I was inquiring about an alpha build. I don't even need a proper install wizard, I can import a database dump.
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Here you go http://docs.cs-cart.com/architecture-changes-in-31x
So it's safe to say existing V3 addons and skins will break then?
Oh oh, and we've all just spent hours and hours and a lot of $$$ (much more then the costs of cs-cart!) on fixing add-ons going from 2 to 3.
Going from 2 to ultimate is nearly impossible (I can live with the fact we had to create a new skin, but also most add-ons stopped working). And now I am afraid going from 3.0x to 3.1.1 is again going to break a lot.
I hope cs-cart will finally start to realize that us shopowners want to run a shop, and not an IT department to fix everything that breaks with every update of cs-cart.
Agreed, I know that we cannot have a move to API AND keep existing addons working. Thats simply a reality of live.
Its basically a whole new version. Like Flow describes it needs addon and style rewrites. This takes time.
We can also expect that 3.1.x needs a number of bug fix releases like any new major version does. So it will take time before 3.1 has major bugs found and resolved.
But 3.1 is also the first version of CS-Cart that will support PHP 5.4.
With 5.3 going EOL next month, practically everyone will need to upgrade to CS 3.1 ASAP. Many hosts will simply upgrade their servers resulting in CS-cart 3.0 and below no longer working. Various large hosts have sent warnings to their customers. Others will simply upgrade their servers to the supported stable version of PHP.
This means that there is an urgency for customers to upgrade their sites to 3.1 ASAP or sites will stop working, while the 3.1 changes mean we will have to wait for months. This is problematic.
If you ask me, they should never have released the current version 3 branch. They should have gone from 2.25 to what is now going to be 3.11 and named that version 3.
We all just upgraded, or are in the process of upgrading from 2 to 3, and now it looks like 3.11 is going to be a completely new system again? I wish I’d just stuck to my perfectly fine 2.x shops and hooked up inventory manually, instead of going to ultimate.
Oh but wait, that was impossible, because cs-cart refused to fix bugs I needed to have fixed for the 2 branch (tax not being calculated correctly on reward points, which messes up all my invoices and accounting).
@cs-cart please let me/us know if addons and stuff have to be entirely rewritten again, or if they can be easily made compatible. If the first, I will stop development for all 3.05 stores immediately.
Frustrated. 
Things are definitely going to break unless you used magic powers to see into the future to ensure your skins and addons would be compatible with the new structure. Seems quite radically different. Not to worry, in about a year or so, there might be something stable on the horizon with the killer V2 bugs ironed out. One can hope…
I wonder what is going to happen after 3.1.x?
This may be a strange question since we are just seeing 3.1 develop, but this does make me worry that if we go trough all the trouble of rewriting everything, then will we have to do it again a few months later for 3.2?
Will 3.1 see a many bug fix releases so that we can have some stable ground under our feet?
Or do we keep jumping from overhaul to overhaul before any release has the bugs ironed out?
Currently 3.0.5 still has many bugs. If 3.0.x would have been virtually bug free and would support PHP 5.4 then we would not have to rewrite skins and addons immediately. Then we could just enhance our 3.0.x stores until we think we are ready to upgrade to a newer version of CS cart.
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Here you go http://docs.cs-cart…-changes-in-31x
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Nice!
Is there going to be any changes in the Design and Layout between V3.0 and V3.1?
I have a couple of V2 templates that I am either going to change myself or pay to have them changed to work with V3.0.x, but, if there is going to be changes in V3.1 that will effect templates, I won't bother.
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Is there going to be any changes in the Design and Layout between V3.0 and V3.1?
I have a couple of V2 templates that I am either going to change myself or pay to have them changed to work with V3.0.x, but, if there is going to be changes in V3.1 that will effect templates, I won't bother.
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[quote name='tbirnseth' timestamp='1356328302' post='151639']
Probably depends on how you implemented your skins and whether you are upgrading from a prior version or installing new and then applying your skin changes.
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From: Will 3.1 break any skins? - Upcoming features - CS-Cart Community Forums
What version of Smarty will CS-Cart v3.1.1 be running, version 3 or still 2?
Torann81 … thanks for the cut / paste, I had already read that … “Probably depends” is not an answer, it's a guess.
Here, let me slow it down for ya … I purchased a V2 skin, I uploaded it, I selected it, I loaded the blocks, and it worked. I upgraded to V3.0, and the skin doesn't work … I do get the header part.
Now I want to know if it is worth my time or money to get this skin working with V3.0 or just wait until V3.1.
[quote name=‘Flow’ timestamp=‘1360674480’ post=‘155014’]
Frustrated.
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I’m with ya.
[quote name='Entangled' timestamp='1360947142' post='155442']
Is there going to be any changes in the Design and Layout between V3.0 and V3.1?
I have a couple of V2 templates that I am either going to change myself or pay to have them changed to work with V3.0.x, but, if there is going to be changes in V3.1 that will effect templates, I won't bother.
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I'd advice you to finish your shop (pages, products, etc) except for custom add-ons and skin. Then wait till 3.11 is out, have add-ons and skin made, and go live when version 3.12 or 3.13 comes out and (hopefully) most new bugs are gone.
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Oh oh, and we've all just spent hours and hours and a lot of $$$ (much more then the costs of cs-cart!) on fixing add-ons going from 2 to 3.
Going from 2 to ultimate is nearly impossible (I can live with the fact we had to create a new skin, but also most add-ons stopped working). And now I am afraid going from 3.0x to 3.1.1 is again going to break a lot.
I hope cs-cart will finally start to realize that us shopowners want to run a shop, and not an IT department to fix everything that breaks with every update of cs-cart.
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I agree. Would love to update when it comes out, but would cost me more to have the site fixed than I have made since I am just starting out.
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Torann81 … thanks for the cut / paste, I had already read that … “Probably depends” is not an answer, it’s a guess.
Here, let me slow it down for ya … I purchased a V2 skin, I uploaded it, I selected it, I loaded the blocks, and it worked. I upgraded to V3.0, and the skin doesn’t work … I do get the header part.
Now I want to know if it is worth my time or money to get this skin working with V3.0 or just wait until V3.1.
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Wait for 3.1.1 then get your new skin
then start saving up the dough to spend on getting them all fixed again as they may probably bring out another new branch just when you have got it done 