cs cart as CMS?

I tried to compare some of secure CMS like Bitrix site manager with cs cart version 1.3.4 sp3 and I find out that with little modification Cs cart can easly become THE BEST CMS today putting away mentioned CMS that guys are selling them from 199$-1999$.



If you compare mods of that CMS and CS CARt you’ll see that CS CART has about 80% on them already.



Just wanna open a new thread to cs cart dev team to start making CMS based on the code of existing CS cart-It will turn into great succes,I’m sure.



Just look what BSM are selling?



[url]On-premise pricing



As I can see their edition for 1999$ have almost same module as cs cart 1.3.4 sp3.



I think I gave enough reasons to cs cart dev team to start make CMS and to make that CMS one of the best in the world-the same way they done with cs cart as I may say one of the best-maybe THE BEST SHOPPING CART on the planet for e-commerce beginners.



Why not start with CMS?



Thanks.

There are better CMS out there that are free and open source. CS-Cart is far from a good CMS.

Joomla and Mambo are the two front runners when it comes to an open source CMS. I use Joomla to front our site, and I’m pretty happy with it. I wouldn’t want CS-C to become a CMS as it would just bloat the program beyond imagination. The core purpose of the two programs are very different as well, so coming up with code that would accommodate both would be impractical.



However, what I would really like to see is the two programs happily interfacing with each other on a limited scale. I’d like to keep the same general look and feel, and have relevant info, such as login, work for both programs. I think this would be a reasonable place to start.



Somebody came up with a cart that works with Joomla. I took a look at it and even though it’s open source, it’s as different as night and day when compared to CS-C. There really wasn’t any comparison.

I’m starting to develop a Drupal (CS-Cart) website at the moment and have to say that the backend needs a few alias’s to know where everything is.



I’m starting to rip out code and change the language file for the sake of simplicity however I’m overall happy with it’s offerings to date.

Hey there Jessie,



Let me know when you get that site running. I’d like to see how you work your magic. :smiley:

I think it would be very cool if cs-cart offered a CRM (Customer relationship management) software that interacted with regular cs-cart. It would be great to have a all-in-one tool. Something like QuickBooks, CRM, and E-Commerce all built into one.

Sounds like an API could be developed to communicate with all external script rather than expanding CS-cart to anything more than an ecommerce script.

[quote name=‘JosiahW’]I think it would be very cool if cs-cart offered a CRM (Customer relationship management) software that interacted with regular cs-cart. It would be great to have a all-in-one tool. Something like QuickBooks, CRM, and E-Commerce all built into one.[/quote]That would be an incredibly valuable program indeed. There is a company that does something like what you’re suggesting, except they author every aspect of the program. It’s very comprehensive, taking care of everything from the front door to the shipping dock. It eliminates all the redundant data entry as well. If the price of an item changes, whoever is in charge of changing prices only has to do it at one place and the change will be instantly changed on the website, retail stores, and anywhere else the price is displayed.



Of course, the program is wicked expensive. It is targeted at companies having around 5 million in sales on the low end, and about 100 million on the high end. Whoever comes out with a product that does all of this and still has a reasonable price would sure get rich quick.

[quote name=‘MikeK’]Hey there Jessie,



Let me know when you get that site running. I’d like to see how you work your magic. :D[/quote]

I’m starting a cs-cart development site with cs-cart walkthroughs (sorry link cannot be passed around at this time)

[quote name=‘MikeK’]Whoever comes out with a product that does all of this and still has a reasonable price would sure get rich quick.[/QUOTE]



Now all we need to do is make cs-cart see this :).



Maybe we could all chip in for a giant mod. How much do you think the dev team would charge for this?



How much would you charge for this Jesse?



I have seen some open source crm’s but am never bold enough to dive into the open source software. I know very little php or any other language for that matter and would not want to risk my company not being able to recover from a mistake.



Here are some links to open source crm’s I have been looking into. Know of any other good ones?



What is CRM? | About CRM | SugarCRM

www.vtiger.com/

www.hipergate.org/

xrms.sourceforge.net

www.opentaps.org/

[quote name=‘JosiahW’]Now all we need to do is make cs-cart see this :).[/quote] They’re a bit busy hustling on the next version… I’m not sure if they sleep anymore


[quote name=‘JosiahW’] Maybe we could all chip in for a giant mod. How much do you think the dev team would charge for this?[/quote] Not a bad idea… But what exactly is everyone looking for.

I mean exactly


[quote name=‘JosiahW’] How much would you charge for this Jesse?[/quote] No Idea, I’m not the programmer of sorts but understand basic PHP programming. Having said that it would proberly be easier to find a CRM and open a new page that grabs the current cs-cart tables. (Shouldn’t have said that simply)


[quote name=‘JosiahW’] I have seen some open source crm’s but am never bold enough to dive into the open source software. I know very little php or any other language for that matter and would not want to risk my company not being able to recover from a mistake.[/quote]

Personally I have never used a CRM and can’t find the time to investigate what it might assist me with (4 dev sites atm) and so I’m KISS (Keeping it Simple Silly) Having said that I’ll proberly find a decent one, rip it to shreads and share it’s DNA when I’ve got aronnd to it :smiley:



If anyone want to put votes up on what they would prefer to investigate I’m quite happy to assist a few in setting up a CRM for their usage (a FEW not the forum :P) Hell if it works I’m sure a few of us can band our customers together for a real email extravaganza

You’re looking at a solution at $5,000 at least.



Unless you bridge it to an existing CRM package. The question is which one. People want to use different products. I don’t use Quickbooks for example, so anything having to do with that is useless to me.



It’s been said before and CS-Cart should not cram everything into one package. Either make three separate products that can be bridged to eachother, or make bridges to other products. But not all-in-one… and you are sure as hell not getting it for $195 lifetime purchase, if that’s what you have in mind. :wink:



I would not trust CS-Cart to create a bookkeeping program at all… for various reasons.



First I’d like to see a complete ecommerce package. A lot of basic stuff is still not implemented.

[quote name=‘Zyles’]You’re looking at a solution at $5,000 at least.



Unless you bridge it to an existing CRM package. The question is which one. People want to use different products. I don’t use Quickbooks for example, so anything having to do with that is useless to me.



It’s been said before and CS-Cart should not cram everything into one package. Either make three separate products that can be bridged to eachother, or make bridges to other products. But not all-in-one… and you are sure as hell not getting it for $195 lifetime purchase, if that’s what you have in mind. :wink:



I would not trust CS-Cart to create a bookkeeping program at all… for various reasons.



First I’d like to see a complete ecommerce package. A lot of basic stuff is still not implemented.[/QUOTE]



Well it looks like im going to be using drupal or possiably joomla for all my crm, crs, and commerce. Not sure if i will use their commerce or stick to cs-cart. I want to take a look at what i can do with theirs and how the communitry support is.

Josaih,



I’m not familiar with Drupal, but I use Joomla to front my website, and have used Mambo before as well. Both programs have a learning curve, but it’s not too tough. The thing that I appreciate most is that there is a TON of mod’s and tools from a large group of developers. Lots of free stuff and excellent add-on’s that are reasonably priced.



The most important factor to me is that both of these programs are very mature and most mod’s are just as mature, and work well right out of the box. I have several third party mod’s on my website without any conflicts. Wish I could say that about CS-C, but it is young.

Joomla has a learning avalanche.



Nodes, Blocks and other terms which I was unaware of [SIZE=1]have creeped into my sub-concious and now powers me with a will to take over the world [/SIZE]has made it a rather interesting experience. I’ve picked a rather good theme and modded around with the style sheet and it looks like something someone would pay $1000 for as is.

I bought a template that I think looks really nice for $50 US. I can’t say there wasn’t any frustrations, but once you get the hang of it, it’s not too bad.



One thing I really like is the modules. There’s pretty much a module for anything. Upgrading is the part I like best. If you get an update, you just uninstall the old one, and install the new one. I did that with the FrontPage Slideshow just tonight. Took less than a minute. No bugs, no conflicts, and all the data was right where it was supposed to be.



Cheers M8,

[quote name=‘MikeK’]I bought a template that I think looks really nice for $50 US. I can’t say there wasn’t any frustrations, but once you get the hang of it, it’s not too bad.



One thing I really like is the modules. There’s pretty much a module for anything. Upgrading is the part I like best. If you get an update, you just uninstall the old one, and install the new one. I did that with the FrontPage Slideshow just tonight. Took less than a minute. No bugs, no conflicts, and all the data was right where it was supposed to be.



Cheers M8,[/QUOTE]



Why do you use cs-cart for your commerce instead of one of the modules from Joomla?

[quote name=‘JosiahW’]Why do you use cs-cart for your commerce instead of one of the modules from Joomla?[/quote]Finally, an easy question. :smiley:



The answer; Because CS-C is the best! I looked at VirtueMart and it was pretty basic and limited. By comparison, CS-Cart is feature rich and highly adaptable to nearly any type of product or service. If it doesn’t have exactly what you need, there is a growing group of users that churn out mod’s for free, or at a very reasonable price. If that doesn’t work, you can always have CS-Cart code it. They’re pricing is quite fair as well.