Jump to content

  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

CS Cart VS Interspire Shopping cart.. Rate Topic   - - - - -

 

Posted 12 December 2009 - 07:00 AM #1

Well fromt he looks of it they look the same but Interspire cart is cheaper.

Tell me why should i buy CSCart again vs Interspire cart?
http://www.interspir...gcart/index.php

 
  • brandonvd
  • is Super Awesome
  • Members
  • Join Date: 19-Dec 06
  • 2633 posts

Posted 12 December 2009 - 07:48 AM #2

I don't have any experience with Interspire, but I have been with CS-Cart for 3 years now and have been very happy with them.

The features and cart work great.

When I've needed support they've been able to help me with what I needed.

And, this forum has been great.

Also as for the price, Interspire is $295.00 and CS-Cart is $265.00 so CS-Cart is actually $30.00 cheaper.

Brandon

 

Posted 12 December 2009 - 08:02 AM #3

I was looking at both carts when I bought CS-Cart, and price was NO FACTOR in my purchase. If Interspire had built a better cart I would have bought it.

I stayed away from interspire because of some of the issues some of the users were reporting on the forums, the Coupon issues was a big one for me. But if you want to read more, I am there is another thread around here somewhere going into more detail.

Interspire is not, cheaper, I recall it limits the amount of items you can have in the basic version. If you want the full version of Interspire it is well over a thousand dollars I recall....
2.08 & 2.1.4

hosting with hosting4less.com

Japanese Sake Sets
http://www.pyroskins.com

 
  • Noman
  • Senior Member
  • Members
  • Join Date: 29-Oct 07
  • 526 posts

Posted 12 December 2009 - 11:45 AM #4

Interspire is much more expensive, hosted and owned. See the bandwidth they offer on hosted edition. For 24.95USD you get almost nothing x 12 months = 299.40USD. I would need to pay them minimum 79USD per month so, it's better to have your own CS cart + VPS and over the next 2 years, some bucks still left for CS support if necessary.
I'm Number 1, so why try harder?

CIA wannabe or having doubts and need some answers?
Spy Gadgets and CCTV Equipment

 
  • Lee Li Pop
  • Senior Member
  • Members
  • Join Date: 07-Mar 08
  • 941 posts

Posted 12 December 2009 - 03:59 PM #5

Hello itsjustmewhoelse,

You can read those two threads:

1 - http://forum.cs-cart...ead.php?t=10345

2 - http://forum.cs-cart...ead.php?t=10964


Lee Li Pop
.
If All Else Fails, Read The Instruction Manual! Knowledge Base 2.x + CS-Cart Instruction Manual

Hosted at Pair.com since 2000. Zero hacking attempts during first 11 years... And counting!

 
  • moka
  • Senior Member
  • Members
  • Join Date: 09-Feb 08
  • 634 posts

Posted 12 December 2009 - 11:55 PM #6

Hey!

If you're looking to start a new site, just get another license at $165.

 
  • indy0077
  • Senior Member
  • Banned
  • Join Date: 03-Nov 09
  • 1431 posts

Posted 13 December 2009 - 12:55 AM #7

Well fromt he looks of it they look the same but Interspire cart is cheaper.

Tell me why should i buy CSCart again vs Interspire cart?
http://www.interspir...gcart/index.php



Comparsion Interspire vs. CS-Cart

Starter Edition $295 ------------------- CS-Cart $217 - $265

Interspire --------------------------------------- CS-Cart

100 products -------------------------------------- unlimited
Staff logins 2 -------------------------------------- unlimited
Custom Form Fields=NO ------------------- Custom Form Fields=YES
Order Messaging System=NO ------------ Order Messaging System=YES
Sync to Quickbooks=NO ------------------- Sync to Quickbooks=YES
WebMail=NO ------------------------------------ WebMail=YES
Order Notifications via SMS=NO --------- Order Notifications via SMS=YES
Inventory Control=NO ------------------------- Inventory Control=YES
Bulk Product Editing=NO ------------------- Bulk Product Editing=YES
Export Customers (CSV/XML)=NO ------ Export Customers (CSV)=YES
Customer Groups=NO ----------------------- Customer Groups=YES
Discount Rules=NO -------------------------- Discount Rules=YES
Gift Certificates=NO -------------------------- Gift Certificates=YES
Staff Action Logging=NO ------------------- Staff Action Logging=YES
Custom Export Templates=YES --------- Custom Export Templates=NO
Gift Certificate Views=NO ----------------- Gift Certificate Views=YES
Customer Address Verification=YES - Customer Address Verification=NO

Functions that are not available in the $295 version are available ONLY in the $1,795 version and not in the middle version for $995.

The CS-Cart is equal or better as the Interspire Professional Edition for $995 (e.g. max. 5000 products in Interspire Professional Edition).

There are maybe available functions of CS-Cart which Interpire doesn't have.

Try to make a reverse comparsion.
.
CS-Cart Professional €160.00 | CS-Cart Multi-Vendor €625.00 | CS-Cart Hosting | SSL Certificates
.
CS-Cart Optimized Servers *** USA & UK VPS Servers

 
  • spazmanian
  • Junior Member
  • Trial users
  • Join Date: 01-Dec 09
  • 1 posts

Posted 14 December 2009 - 12:15 AM #8

I am also looking at this and both of my clients both like the templates better on interspire and their is also more of them. From what I have read (not verified yet) templating is also easier on interspire (could be a plus). I'd sure like to see more on the these two compared. Also, if you upgrade in Interspire (and used one of their templates) it also gets upgraded. The backend on interspire (try a demo on bigcommerce) seems to be laid out a bit better.

I do like the ability in CS-CART to change the blocks. That is really cool.

 
  • jegesmaci
  • Senior Member
  • Members
  • Join Date: 05-Oct 09
  • 403 posts

Posted 14 December 2009 - 01:24 PM #9

I looked at both and ultimately chose CS-Cart because they had similar features, but some things were different.

1. It is a lot easier to edit files with CS-Cart.
2. There is an active community with very helpful people.
3. The price is very inexpensive compared to what you are getting.
4. CS-Cart does custom development. I have used them twice already in the past 2 months.
5. CS-Cart 3rd party developers were very excited about CS-Cart and they are actively developing addons.

I searched for 2 months and tried a lot of different programs. I am very happy with CS-Cart.

Hope the helps.

Adam

 

Posted 22 December 2009 - 06:33 PM #10

Hey!

If you're looking to start a new site, just get another license at $165.


WOW where u have u been at?LOL

 
  • Guest_San_*
  • Guests

Posted 30 January 2010 - 12:11 AM #11

I’ve had the standard package (£187 GBP, $299 US dollars) of interspire running for approx 30 days and will be taking advantage of the 60 refund policy. Once installed it looked like the works but to upgrade or to have access to upgrades in the future it costs a packet however it installed easily on a linux hosting service (Fasthosts) which needs CURL support.
Starting off, if I was to upgrade to the next level with a few more added features like Inventory control, database backup it would cost me $840 keep in mind that a new licence is only $999. Upgrade costs should just be just the difference when it’s purchased as a trial! Extended support after the year will cost half the licence. If you don’t maintain the yearly support and say decide to pay for a year’s support a few years after to access updates you have to pay for a full licence price. I worked out the full package is going to cost me hundreds every year. One problem I had was when using GoogleCheckout shipping quotes were not carried over to Googlecheckout so I submitted a support ticket. Although I had a reply the following day it’s been over 10 days and it has not been resolved and is currently on hold.
My brother had shown me the demo of CS cart. I can remember looking at CScart a few months ago but the default skin put me off. As soon as I noticed the low price and how many features it has I tried the trial. This is where I was amazed to find at so little price you’re getting almost the same features as the full interspire cart at $1999. You do the maths. If you’re looking to spend loads of money why not have a skin professionally produced, I’m sure I will. Hope this helps.

 
  • San
  • Member
  • Members
  • Join Date: 04-Feb 10
  • 208 posts

Posted 05 February 2010 - 12:38 AM #12

Just to the you know that I purchased CS-Cart and running on the Alpha hosting package from Martfox http://www.martfox.com/ . For under £20 per year hosting and CS cart approx £130 i'm over the moon. The speeds are noticeable faster approx 1.5 second difference. Not a single problem but still have to use SSL on Google checkout.

I had to cut my losses with Interspire running on Fasthosts hosting. I had upgraded my Windows package (£30+), purchased a MySQL database (£25+VAT) to later find it had no CURL support. Then purchased the Linux package to get CURL support (approx £100 per year) and still had problems, htcaccess files did not work etc.. I'm out of there 30 day return policy which is a loss I'll rather take. I can't comment running Interspire on Matrox servers.

I still have Interspire running so I compared some features. I'm not going into detail but CS cart has everything that Interspire has, with the odd differences. The more I think of it, it looks like one has taken the same ideas as the other. CS cart is so much easier to customise and I love it.

So for under £150 hosted... with great and fast support from Martfox. I’ll leave the rest to you to decide.

Also the posting above this is mine before registering.

 
  • Guest_Wei_*
  • Guests

Posted 10 February 2010 - 02:18 PM #13

This is only relevant to a very small percentage of the store owner. Interspire has an edition that supports multi-vendor operation, which might be very useful to somebody who wants to run a drop-ship and multi-vendor operations.

 
  • gasngrills
  • Senior Member
  • Members
  • Join Date: 23-Feb 08
  • 248 posts

Posted 12 February 2010 - 02:51 PM #14

Comparsion Interspire vs. CS-Cart

Starter Edition $295 ------------------- CS-Cart $217 - $265

Interspire --------------------------------------- CS-Cart

100 products -------------------------------------- unlimited
Staff logins 2 -------------------------------------- unlimited
Custom Form Fields=NO ------------------- Custom Form Fields=YES
Order Messaging System=NO ------------ Order Messaging System=YES
Sync to Quickbooks=NO ------------------- Sync to Quickbooks=YES
WebMail=NO ------------------------------------ WebMail=YES
Order Notifications via SMS=NO --------- Order Notifications via SMS=YES
Inventory Control=NO ------------------------- Inventory Control=YES
Bulk Product Editing=NO ------------------- Bulk Product Editing=YES
Export Customers (CSV/XML)=NO ------ Export Customers (CSV)=YES
Customer Groups=NO ----------------------- Customer Groups=YES
Discount Rules=NO -------------------------- Discount Rules=YES
Gift Certificates=NO -------------------------- Gift Certificates=YES
Staff Action Logging=NO ------------------- Staff Action Logging=YES
Custom Export Templates=YES --------- Custom Export Templates=NO
Gift Certificate Views=NO ----------------- Gift Certificate Views=YES
Customer Address Verification=YES - Customer Address Verification=NO

Functions that are not available in the $295 version are available ONLY in the $1,795 version and not in the middle version for $995.

The CS-Cart is equal or better as the Interspire Professional Edition for $995 (e.g. max. 5000 products in Interspire Professional Edition).

There are maybe available functions of CS-Cart which Interpire doesn't have.

Try to make a reverse comparsion.


Indy I just love how your responses are always in detail and very helpful, you always get to the point with facts. Your presence have been noticed In the short time you have been around here and becoming a GURU.

I agree with everything you said.

Cheers
Joe

CS-Cart 4.11.5


 
  • Guest_Unregistered_*
  • Guests

Posted 12 February 2010 - 07:45 PM #15

This is only relevant to a very small percentage of the store owner. Interspire has an edition that supports multi-vendor operation, which might be very useful to somebody who wants to run a drop-ship and multi-vendor operations.

This is on the CS-Cart roadmap - Sno

 
  • ogia
  • Senior Member
  • Members
  • Join Date: 09-Aug 09
  • 503 posts

Posted 18 February 2010 - 05:54 AM #16

I have the Interspire multi-vendor edition and I'm now using CS-Cart + a custom add-on if that tells you anything. I can't even remember what I paid for it now (I thnk I put it out of my memory so I won't cry), but it was a complete waste of money. I don't think anyone is using it to run a truly successful store unless they've modified it. Not to mention it would have cost me loads to upgrade it each year since they charge a percentage of the original license fee.
CS-Cart 2.1.3 | Selling downloads
I recommend Newsletter Integration with Mailchimp

 
  • indy0077
  • Senior Member
  • Banned
  • Join Date: 03-Nov 09
  • 1431 posts

Posted 18 February 2010 - 11:31 PM #17

Indy I just love how your responses are always in detail and very helpful, you always get to the point with facts. Your presence have been noticed In the short time you have been around here and becoming a GURU.

I agree with everything you said.

Cheers
Joe

Thanks... Sorry we don't have any "Thanks Button" here :D
.
CS-Cart Professional €160.00 | CS-Cart Multi-Vendor €625.00 | CS-Cart Hosting | SSL Certificates
.
CS-Cart Optimized Servers *** USA & UK VPS Servers

 
  • San
  • Member
  • Members
  • Join Date: 04-Feb 10
  • 208 posts

Posted 19 February 2010 - 12:20 AM #18

I used interspire for over 4 weeks and got a refund when I found CS-Cart. Interspire refunded without any questions- they must know what a con the full price app is compared to cs cart. Why pay 2000 when you can pay 300?

CS-Cart costs less for loads of advanced features.

 
  • Guest_Unregistered_*
  • Guests

Posted 21 February 2010 - 08:26 AM #19

Interspire is a different gig. Your all attempting measure Interspire by their eCommerce application. Understand something... eCommerce now-a-days is more than a shopping cart. A shopping cart is your transaction mechanism.

Interspires products combined, the mail marketer, cms etc. all provide a uniform platform albeit an expensive one for perhaps small businesses. A retailer paying $1400 a month+ for a retail storefront looks at $1800 like less than two months of retail space.

Compare their eMail marketing tool to the mass mailer in CS-Cart... any comparison? Not in the least. Yet... eMail marketing is the #1 form of product marketing on the Internet hence why Amazon, Comp-USA, Target, Walmart on and on and on use it religiously.

Content... Content is important in bringing in and more so perhaps retaining customers. Interspire offers a knowledgebase, CMS system etc. Used to be a shopping cart application was all a online retailer really needed. Now-a-days the webs alot more interactive. Blogs, Forums, Interactive content, video on and on are all staples of eCommerce growth.

One can certainly argue about implementations, is Interspires solutions in combination better than others? We can argue whether specific implementations are better. Aka: Is CS-Cart better than Interspire's cart?

Any which way one care's to debate there is one point that cannot be debated that being that end web surfers who buy or wish to buy online are the commodity. Thus eCommerce websites need to do all they can to attract and retain those consumers. A shopping cart is a transaction mechanism. It is only one part of the equation in attracting and retaining consumers.

We're all consumers, we all know this. If people are looking for best price they'll shop all over, hit-up eBay or Amazon etc.

If you want them to shop with your businesses than you need an edge and that edge is not the shopping cart application. That edge is the quality of your business model from start to finish. It means you have effective email marketing, it means your website is providing more than just "Sell them something" content.

Interspire provides a fairly complete and robust all around solution.

If you were to take two stores... one using CS, the other using the Interspire lord knows how much $$$ suite of products your likely to see the Interspire vendor making hundreds if not thousands of percentile more revenue. Not due to the shopping cart, not at all... Its due to the ability of their "suite" of applications to produce a complete site (if you will)... More than "Here's a storefront". One can produce a site that has all facets, content management, email marketing on and on.

CS-Cart is making a mistake in even attempting to create these types of applications "integrated" into CS-Cart itself. Many reasons why.

First maintainability. Creating one giant application will result in all sorts of issues from resource hog to boxing the software in, so expansion actually becomes more difficult.

They cut their nose off in the revenue stream. A email marketer should be separate. A advertising manager (banners lets say) again... separate. CMS ability, separate.

While ya'll make think it neato as "see, plugable all in one" you wont when you realize the constraints because of it. Whats important is applications interoperability not the fact they can "plug-in" and how robust those applications are to suit the tasks at hand.

Take Joomla for example since I know it's engineering environment inside and out.

Joomla provides an API to developers to access core CMS function and the invocation mechanisms for components, modules or plugins (content plugins). They provided an event's systems for providing invocation "hooks" for the plugins.

These run "clean", that is to say besides the use of the API any add on is essentially an entity unto itself. Components are essentially micro-applications. While accessible from the Joomla administration area they need not really be tightly linked. Thats the right way to do things.

Anyways... attempting compare such things is really apples and oranges. For $280 you can get CS-Cart and have a shopping cart with some doo-dad's most of which are not real robust (ad management, mass mailer, light CMS ability). Or you can spend many thousands and have an integrated environment. Or Magento which kinda sits between for nuthin'.

As a merchant one has to ask, "What makes me the most money" not "Which costs me the least".

If CS were $1800 people'd scoff at that right?

If Cart "XXX" makes me $10,000 a month in revenue and cost me $1000 but Environment "YYY" cost me $5000 but makes me $50,000 a month WHICH is my best choice?

CS-Cart has some promise but IMHO as both engineer, merchant, marketing whiz has missed a boat. First, should'nt cost $280. Should cost $450-$600.

WHAT??!?!?!! HOW DARE I?

Look... Developers are not cheap. I get $120 per hour coding C# Windows App's. I get $80-$100 an hour for Web Development be that PHP, C++ or C#/VB ASP.NET.

At $450-$600 perhaps CS can bring on another developer or two and get into a more rapid expansion. Alot of cottage web app development firms get caught up in what appears to make sense but doesnt.

Let me explain...

Interspire has went through quite a bit of growth. That growth is fueled by what they charge for their products. Their products sell well because they provide a comprehensive (good or not I wont debate) environment for a web presence. CMS, Sell, Marketing etc.

CS probably went low on the cart app because they were thinking, "We need to obtain a marketshare and we'll do that by being very affordable and provide a better than average value for the money". Congrats. They did that.

However, in order to fuel expansion its probably not enough revenue. So, now we have to deal with support time, buy points. Thats some more revenue.

In reality CS has its start marketshare, the price should go up considerable to fuel faster development and development of applications that bring that full "environment" to fruition.

Hard to do as all those folks that paid $280 now get all bent out of shape with $500.

In reality its wise to start at a better price point but too late for that.

Proper capture of marketshare means once you have the environment, CMS, Marketing, Commerce App etc. NOW you DUMP the price. So say altogether the environment as individual interoperable app's is $2000. NOW you dump it to $600 and watch the vendors go, "Holly cow!" and buy in.

And Again... as I said in the CS vs Magento thread we as a development firm would like to see this happen. CS has some really nice concepts in CS-Cart, but, its a cart. Its not a complete environment. We'd like to help work towards that complete environment and time is of essence. Why?

Because, by the time CS were to create that complete environment at present rates its too late. Its already behind the curve. Web 3.0 is around the corner. From a user standpoint Web 3.0 is alot like operating your PC/Mac computer from a user standpoint.

Anything other than that is going to look like DOS .vs. Windows.

I've worked with Microsofts CMS due for release sometime next year. Its alot like desktop publishing albeit simpler. Every plugin imaginable is in consideration, some in active development.

Its one of the reasons WHY there is a scramble (aka: Oracle buying up Sun who bought up Innobase (mySQL) etc.

Firms that are NOT on the curve able to make the jump are just dead.

Firms that have a viable framework will be hot commodities as slews of host providers and others (investors etc) look for an edge and HEDGE against what MS is doing AND Adobe is doing.

In other words... true web commercialization is on the horizon. You can see it all over the place. Amazon Web Services, Google Services, Cloud Computing... The goals are your PC becomes a smart terminal, all client/server everything with revenue models that make more money from mass appeal .vs. whats been traditional. Like Cable TV.

Why pay $600 for Microsoft Office when you can pay $5 a month for MS Word "Online C/S Edition" which affords you security, no issues of backup, new pc issues on and on.

This is where everything is headed.

There will be GOBS of these small development businesses folding up shop. Open source is doomed, been on the demise irregardless. A few handfull's of success stories followed by ten of thousands of nopes.

Small businesses in growth mode that have interoperable applications with a successdul base of clients will be hot property. In time, still demise. But, doesnt mean that before that happens a SHEEPload of money cant be made.

 
  • Struck
  • Teetering on Genious
  • Members
  • Join Date: 07-Mar 09
  • 2502 posts

Posted 23 February 2010 - 04:08 AM #20

Lots of interesting viewpoints Unregistered!

First, should'nt cost $280. Should cost $450-$600.


I fully agree, it takes revenue to stay on the cutting edge, and a prime example is the cost of PCI DSS certification! I have not even strongly considered an open source, "free" shopping cart program for several years now, simply because it takes revenue to continue sound development. Sure, open source developers will create this mod & that mod, and then, they eventially realize they also need money to buy groceries, or simply get tired of working for free, and the mod is no longer maintained. This is ok for startup businesses on a tight budget, however, I need to know the cart that our business piggybacks on has some financial backing.

I do believe CS-Cart could raise their price point even "after the fact" if handled correctly, in fact they could use the cost of PCI DSS certification (of which I have heard was in the $20K range) to their advantage right this minute! (And as you know Unregistered, it is all about the "presentation" & timing.) How many CS-Cart users / supporters would be willing to help offset these costs right now in exchange for some comfort in knowing we will indeed be able to get a good nights sleep prior to mid July? ;)

PS: I am sleeping just fine right now for the most part, not feeling alot of PCI DSS stress simply because I predict the bureacrats will realize uhhm around July 1st, that the industry is not yet ready to absorb these implementations & will "begin" to wonder how wise it would be to throw this wrench into an already seriously struggling economy. My prediction is there will be an extension, or relaxed time frame given to compliance.......but then, what if I am wrong again!
Cooking with Gas on Version 4.1.2 (But proceeding with caution....)