What i wanted to say somekind of final authorization is needed to approve buying without vat. Implications should be avoided. I dont know if the vies systems detects fom where are you comming or...
So lets check how to presta tesolved this
VAT check module available for cs-cart a long time
As for professional presentation you should better say ability to modify + customize and have unique invoice. I have my invoice.tpl heavily customized because I want to have a unique invoice it is a document remember...
Not sure how about current cs-cart version but earlier maybe 2x was allowing to choose or request user group. Such user group request could be with admin approval or without selectable.
Requesting say business user group could make extra profile fields visible.
Extra profile fields could have user group checkbox.
User groups:
All Guest Registered user
It is really good idea because as you say not all are under EU law, not all deal Business to Business or export every day...
Please make anything to do with any kind of taxes configurable to be included or not. Do NOT put registrant info on profiles unless it is configured to do so by the merchant.
One of the real benefits would be to have a checkbox for "Business account" which could then trigger any registrant info (if applicable) and could also set some thing automatically like residential/commercial shipping location, tax exempt flag (for areas that don't require registrant info to be supplied), etc.
A VAT field and a company registration field should be present in CS-Cart by default. For both the customer as the seller.
As Tony suggested: If the customer is a company, then a tickbox for this could activate the fields for VAT and company registration number. This would be very helpful.
If there are standard fields for this then addon developers can reuse this.
A VAT check should be in the core, because it's essential for tax calculation. You can only calculate 0% VAT if both VAT numbers (customer and seller) are checked to be valid.
A VAT field and a company registration field should be present in CS-Cart by default. For both the customer as the seller.
As Tony suggested: If the customer is a company, then a tickbox for this could activate the fields for VAT and company registration number. This would be very helpful.
If there are standard fields for this then addon developers can reuse this.
A VAT check should be in the core, because it's essential for tax calculation. You can only calculate 0% VAT if both VAT numbers (customer and seller) are checked to be valid.
You're meaning tax extempt... 0% tax is a tax group. I hope we will stop confusing us with this issue.
Imac, probalby some improvments on apperance is needed. Complete tax sum is not present on the memo or invoice. I dobt think that something special is needed to be displayed here except the comapny info and the tax number. Tax number which is currently present on documents in the lower part of page where taxes are separated should be removed. Because it’s confusing number.
There are state and local taxes in US that tax_exempt should relate to. Though most don't have the reporting requirements, but some states do. So it needs to be flexible on how it's implmented and displayed.
But first priority should be to fix tax_exempt so it doesn't charge taxes. It's currently broken. And note that there should be a global exemption and the ability to exempt just a specific tax. Aren't taxes fun? :-)
Not all fo the world has VAT, PST, GST, etc.... Taxes need to be looked at and managed generically. Note that many items are also tax exempt at various taxing authorities. I.e. food, medicine, etc. might be exempt at different levels. I.e. OTC medication may not be tax exempt but prescription might be exempt from federal tax but not state, etc.
I think using usergroups to identify exempt users for various taxes might be the easiest route to go. I.e. when you create a tax, you have usergroups that identify exempt.
Not all fo the world has VAT, PST, GST, etc.... Taxes need to be looked at and managed generically. Note that many items are also tax exempt at various taxing authorities. I.e. food, medicine, etc. might be exempt at different levels. I.e. OTC medication may not be tax exempt but prescription might be exempt from federal tax but not state, etc.
I think using usergroups to identify exempt users for various taxes might be the easiest route to go. I.e. when you create a tax, you have usergroups that identify exempt.
Dear friend,
You're absolutly right.
Has anyone tested the system without taxes?
How is it working when there are no taxes selected or defined.
Also there are two types of extempt.
1 per product which can be selected and is valid for private and comapnies. Which is not working properly in the current version or any older..
And the other 1 which are we talking here is strict for companies which can be extempt when some rules are fulfiled.
Provided documents are legal in the EU and can be used everywhere in the rest of the world.
Second the tax id or number goes basicly with the company information. It should be a field which can be displayed later on documents. Normal apperance is in the footer as on the provided documents.
Yea but now its impossible to display 0% tax even if you want to..
There are no tax lines on my order notifications, invoices, etc. nor do I want there to be one that shows 0% tax.
If there are no taxes sure you do not display or enable any of it, but in EU that would be possible only for merchant whoose yearly turnover is less then approx 30k$ (this value varies from country to country)..
I will repeat myself, all of this data is already available in cs-cart it is just a matter of how you modify your invoice.tpl file..
You just want cs-cart to modify whole branch to your absolutely narrow scenario.. What is it intangible digital goods that are sold in two or more tax rates? I think you need custom coding but not made whole branch made to suit your needs..
OK
I have managed to find the english version of the pro forma , memo and invoices.
Provided documents are legal in the EU and can be used everywhere in the rest of the world.
Second the tax id or number goes basicly with the company information. It should be a field which can be displayed later on documents. Normal apperance is in the footer as on the provided documents.
I don’t need nothing… it’s just how it should work. In this way are rking and other systems and it’s standard to display taxes,rates,complete sum of tax and 0% tax as regular tax. I hope you guys will consult some economic experts.
It is a text or number or combination of both that are entered in to a field by a customer. Do you want cs-cart to check if all of this data worldwide is valid? Do you want cs-cart to check if customer from some Tanzania company ID is fake or valid???
It is a text or number or combination of both that are entered in to a field by a customer. Do you want cs-cart to check if all of this data worldwide is valid? Do you want cs-cart to check if customer from some Tanzania company ID is fake or valid???
You're again mixing apples and bananas ;) I'm talking about of seller data which ismisding and required. And how the f... uses checking of vat number? It's done manually. You have to send proof that you're company and tax registered and then a tax extempt is assigned to user or to user group. So it works in acctual life ; )
it was a joke???