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  • sok777
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Posted 05 March 2017 - 11:45 AM #1

Hello,

 

Just would like your opinion which server would be optimal solution from the list below for CS CART Ultimate (8-12 storefronts). Totally all shops will have around 1000 products (need maximum 2 GB space)

 

Low season: Maximum total similtaneos conections: 5. (all storefronts)

High season: Maximum posible total similtaneos conections: 70. (all storefronts)

 

 

Option 1

 

Server Dedicated

Processor Intel® Quad-Core

CPU 4 Cores x 3.1 GHz (3.4 GHz Turbo Boost)

RAM 12 GB DDR3 ECC

HDD 1,000 GB SATA

RAID 1

Price/month 72,48 €

 

 

Option 2

 

Server Dedicated

Processor AMD Hexa-Core

CPU 6 Cores x 2.8 GHz (3.3 GHz Turbo Core)

RAM 16 GB DDR3 ECC

HDD 1,000 GB SATA

RAID 1

Price/month 72,48 €

 

 

Option 3

 

Server Cloud

Processor Intel Xeon E5-2683 v3

CPU 4 vCores 2.0 GHz

RAM 8 GB DDR3 ECC

HDD 160 GB SSD

Price/month 60,49 €

 

 

Option 4

 

Server Virtual Cloud = VPS

Processor Intel Xeon E5-2683 v3

CPU 4 vCores 2.0 GHz

RAM 8 GB DDR3 ECC

HDD 160 GB SSD

Price/month 36,28 €

 

 

Also I know it is a metter of personal preferences and was discussed many times but anyway, what does finally CS CART recommend to use Centos 7.3. or Ubuntu 16.04 at this moment.

 

Thanks



 
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Posted 05 March 2017 - 05:17 PM #2

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Posted 06 March 2017 - 03:27 PM #3

Hello sok777,

 

Your server requirements rely on many things. For example:

- Do you run multiple cs-cart instances (a seperate one for every storefront) or do you run managed storefronts from the same cs-cart backend?

- Do your products have a lot of features or not, if so, is filtering a must.

- Is your store multilangual. (For my business this is the case so requests take a bit longer and there are 8 times the amount of feature variants which make filtering and the overall loading of the site very intensive.

- How much room do you want for other applications? I for example have a mail server and a few other things installed on there as well.

- How enterprise do you want it to be? If you are a hobbiest you will probably get away with a cheap hosting server. If your company heavily relies on it you might as well spent those extra hundred dollars on excellent support.

 

But where should you look out for whenever you choose a hosting service?

 

First of all I'd recommend that if you heavily rely on support you go ahead and find yourself an enterprise level hosting service. I for example work with true.nl (they have multiple backup systems, provide critical patches within an hour, reply to support tickets regarding your operating system within 10 minutes and so on.)

 

Secondly, if I were you I would take a look and think if you need a dedicated or virtual dedicated server. The difference between these two things is that whenever you have a virtual dedicated server ram and cpu cores can be added at any time you want. If you have a dedicated server you would need to upgrade your server and perhaps have a few minutes of downtime.

 

Thirdly, how secure do you want your server to be? True.nl has 24/7 at least 12 people at the same time guarding their server facility and has 2 different ISP's in case one of the ISP's fails to deliver access to the internet. Furthermore they have 2 different and independent power supplyers and the servers have many different backup and fail prevention systems. A few of these include:

1. Daily backup (both databases and disk, you can also manually backup).

2. 2 PSU's attached to the server (in case one defects) and many more of these standard things.

3. They provide system analysis through their admin panel, they will also warn you if anything critical is about to happen. (like inodes getting filled, ram is not enough, etc.)

4. etc.

 

Fourthly, you should also think where your server should be located. This is mainly because the laws from that certain country where your server is located. For example in Germany you need to have a story about yourself, a privacy policy and many more things (no matter in what language). The best advantage from the Netherlands is that the main fibre glass cable from America enters the country overhere. Therefore your webpage will also load within 1 second in the other side of Europe. (FYI our webpage loads in 3 seconds from Los Angeles).

 

Finally, if you want to get more information take a look at their website, https://www.true.nl/...ns/e-commerce/  or you can call them at this phonenumber +31 (0)20 305 97 50

 

Feel free to ask any more questions regarding this.

 

Best wishes,

 

PS. Regarding your question for the OS you need to choose take a look at this article:

 

 

Are fast update cycles a must for you? Do you need a diverse set of package groups, and access to paid support and training services? Is versatility something you absolutely demand of your operating system?

If so, go with Ubuntu.

But what about stability and security? What if you’re using your distribution to host mission-critical, highly-sensitive data? Sure, there’s something to be said for fast update cycles, but security trumps that.

If those are questions you’ve asked, CentOS is your best choice – you’ll basically be getting an enterprise-grade Linux distro at a fraction of the cost.

But maybe you’re not a Linux novice. Maybe you’ve been around the operating system for years, and you’re just taking a look at this article to give yourself a refresher. Maybe you’re running a system for which regular updates aren’t absolutely necessary, and you’ve enough experts on staff that the lack of any sort of paid support isn’t really an issue. And maybe, just maybe, you value stability more than anything else.

 

If that sounds like you, then you’re going to want to roll with Debian. It may be old, but that doesn’t make it any less formidable. That’s especially true with the April 2015 release of Debian 8, which switches to the systemd init system from the SysVinit init system.

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Posted 07 March 2017 - 05:24 AM #4

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Posted 07 March 2017 - 07:17 AM #5

Select which one meets better your needs, install a free web controll panel e.g: CWP and you are done.


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Posted 09 March 2017 - 08:58 AM #6

Option 1

 

Server Dedicated

Processor Intel® Quad-Core

CPU 4 Cores x 3.1 GHz (3.4 GHz Turbo Boost)

RAM 12 GB DDR3 ECC

HDD 1,000 GB SATA

RAID 1

 

 

This should be fine, but much more important is the configuration of the OS, security etc. Also if you are not familiar with server administration and command line tasks, you should consider to use WHM/cPanel. You will be able to configure your system (the most of the common tasks) from the GUI backend.


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Posted 12 March 2017 - 04:37 PM #7

This should be fine, but much more important is the configuration of the OS, security etc. Also if you are not familiar with server administration and command line tasks, you should consider to use WHM/cPanel. You will be able to configure your system (the most of the common tasks) from the GUI backend.

Agree but look at Virtualmin / Webmin as WHM and cPanel / Plesk etc just EAT resources for no good reason and present their own security problems.

 

Dedicated is the way to go, Cloud is too expensive for anything half decent, VPS is for beginners or back room stores who dont have big budgets. Dedicated way more control and flexibility.

 

CentOS is a good choice for web server Linux based and focused OS or Debian.



 
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Posted 12 March 2017 - 10:46 PM #8

90% of merchants are NOT system admins and have no business trying to manage/run a dedicated server.  There are merchants on here to try and the keep shooting themselves in the foot and all it does is distract them from their business.

 

VPS with decent configuration is perfect for 95+% of cs-cart merchants with cPanel/WHM to ease the pain.

 

If you outgrow it, then definitely you can go with dedicated and then probably have the resources to hire a good admin who can care/feed your dedicated server.

 

Just my opinion from observations over the years.


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Posted 12 March 2017 - 11:05 PM #9

WHM and cPanel / Plesk etc just EAT resources for no good reason and present their own security problems.

 

 

About the resources - sure, they need more resources, because e.g. cPanel delivers a server management with easy pre-configuration regarding security and configuration of the server, let's say "on the fly"...  Webmin with Virtualmin? It's nice, free of charges, but a person not familiar with general server configuration knowledge, will never get a working and secure WEB server...

 

Regarding security - every server is vulnerable, doesn't matter if it is x or y panel, or what's ever.

 

You have to take care about the security by yourself - the panels are just a tool to make it easier for you.

 

That's it.


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Posted 12 March 2017 - 11:17 PM #10

90% of merchants are NOT system admins and have no business trying to manage/run a dedicated server.  There are merchants on here to try and the keep shooting themselves in the foot and all it does is distract them from their business.

 

VPS with decent configuration is perfect for 95+% of cs-cart merchants with cPanel/WHM to ease the pain.

 

If you outgrow it, then definitely you can go with dedicated and then probably have the resources to hire a good admin who can care/feed your dedicated server.

 

Just my opinion from observations over the years.

 

I agree with you. I "think" nowadays many people try to start an $1 ecommerce business and try to configure their server by themselves.


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Posted 15 March 2017 - 07:13 PM #11

I would at least start with a VPS if you are a serious with starting your e-com webstore and get yourself a decent SSL installed or do it yourself.

WHM/Cpanel are the panels I personally have the best experience with and I used on our VPS which is based on CentOS 6.8 on a XenServer.

I have 10 GB of dedicated memory assigned to this VPS.


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