[tbirnseth]

For anyone who has ever done any formal development, smarty is not exactly a challenge (though cs-cart's use and formatting can certainly be a challenging). .

[Lazy]

Colortone, eBay is live in how many countries ? we have clients topping Google and who also trade on eBay sites, the site does around 20 order per night after close of business, the ebay shop does around 60. Bottom line multi channel is a massive part of the ecommerce arena. If you go to the roadmap page eBay integration is marked as being Planned, so both myself and other users asking when/ if something that been stated as planned is going to happen, a fair question to ask. 462 votes from users make this the 3rd most required module.

"I think we have to consider cs-cart is designed for a general public in different countries." No it is built for people that run ecommerce sites / businesses as I have already stated marketplaces like eBay are a huge part of the ecommerce world, to have a cart system that allows users to save time on listing there items to such marketplaces not only adds value it helps to increase CS carts profits and reach in terms of sign ups. The big cart that does this link up (I know there are several) Magento is in my opinion a piece of shit and such a let down as a cart.

I love CS cart and the features they have delivered however this module for us is the last part of the puzzle I wouldn't to care to much if they never added any more features after the delivery of this one. CS Cart is not a charity it is a business the business of selling software as a service, however when the 3rd requested feature of your user community is eBay integration or whatever it maybe, they really should be taking action. Or just delete it from the road map and stop people hoping for something that will never be delivered.

May the force be with you all

[clips]

I think the ebay add-on would be something that many are not interested in. I also feel it would be something that would be better for CS-Cart themselves to pursue. In my mind it would be a great way for CS-Cart to start to make their own add-ons for sale and then those would would want it could. Those who do not want it, just would not need to buy it. There are other add-ons that I feel would be more appropriate as an add-on that could be sold by CS too. It would not only keep the initial cost lest, but it would not clog up CS-Cart with any more bulking add-ons that not every one uses.

It is sad that it does seem to be a popular idea on uservoice and it has been "planned" for well over a year now, but there has been no progress by CS-Cart. CS continually wants to put so much emphasis on telling us to post stuff on uservoice and then not only do they not listen to it, but they leave something as "planned" for an extended period of time.

[colortone]

Lazy, on 23 May 2012 - 01:20 PM, said:

this module for us is the last part of the puzzle I wouldn't to care to much if they never added any more features after the delivery of this one.

clips, on 23 May 2012 - 03:37 PM, said:

I think the ebay add-on would be something that many are not interested in.

You see, everyone has their own priorities. I have mines too as any other of this forum.
But what is important here is Cs-cart priorities and that is not a mirror reflection of the user voices. And shouldn't be. I'm ok with that, I understand.

So what is left? yes right, third party developers. And certainly they have a different view on the price point compared with what we expect to pay.

[jjtrottier]

I think this all boils down to economics. The demand is here but buyers and sellers don't agree on the terms (and hence no add-on has been developed). The consensus I've gathered here is that the CS-Cart community wants an eBay add-on at a one-time price, with no monthly or long-term financial commitment to the project. Well guess what? Maintaining an ongoing, reliable connection with the eBay API is not that simple! It's a massive project to undertake for any developer, and it would be foolish to develop this add-on without some form of long-term commitment from the CS-Cart community.

Personally, I've decided to move forward with ExportYourStore.com. It's going to cost a fair amount upfront for what I need, and they will earn a recurring monthly fee out of me. However, the reality is I cant afford not to do business on eBay. Multichannel ecommerce is a reality and my competition has already beat me to it.

Quite honestly, when you look at the value of ExportYourStore vs. something even more outrageous like ChannelAdvisor, then it's a no-brainer.

I would rather pay an ongoing fee for something stable vs. an add-on that has the potential to break 6 months down the road and seriously impact my sales. Furthermore, who cares about the monthly fee (it's not that out of line). If you're a relatively successful business, the ROI should justify itself quite easily.

Just my two cents...

[tbirnseth]

@jjtrottier - Wow, where did you come from? A merchant who understands the issues with custom development, maintenance and cost of development? Unheard of on these forums.....

[clips]

Yes, the SaaS (like ExportYourStore) is becoming more and more "popular" over the past couple of years. Likewise, the SaaS companies pop up and disappear just as fast (if not faster) than those selling the software outright! Yes, some things do make sense as a SaaS, and others do not. For example, Interspire is shutting down and only doing BigC. They are doing it for some of the reasons you mentioned. The problem is even things like BigC are riddled with errors and even their integration with eBay is absolutely awful! So just because you use some type of SaaS it does NOT mean that it won't have bugs and not work correctly. What it does mean is it will zap yet another monthly fee from your checking account.

@tbirnseth
Yes, I understand the cost of development. I have paid plenty for software and addons with this shopping cart and others. Likewise I do use some SaaS companies. The problem is many companies are taking on this SaaS model and everything is just not meant to be done that way. It is purely a fad that will fade. Before long these hundreds of SaaS companies that are popping up on every corner will realize there are only so many monthly fees merchants can pay before they are broke!

[Struck]

Because of the complexity, A well designed (& I stress well designed) 3rd party ebay integration addon should easily demand somewhere in the $300-400.00 range along with an annual maintenance fee. This would not of course be purchased by ecommerce beginners testing the waters on a whim, it would however be strongly considered by many well established businesses serious about pursuing alternate proven markets. This would certainly fit the "you have to pay to play" phrase, or come back when you are serious and have the money to further invest in your business.

My educated guess is, build it, and they will come, target the masses & continue beating your developer heads on the desk!

View it like this, the very business savvy, quite successful business owners (not stating that I am one of them, although they are out there lurking in the shadows) will quickly determine that if you give me an efficient way to include my businesses products into yet another proven market (ebay or Amazon), and more importantly you allow me to efficiently "maintain" those listings over time, then an ROI on $300-$400.00 is a no-brainer done deal. Point being, this is not an addon to be targeted to the masses.

[Lazy]

jjtrottier, on 23 May 2012 - 10:27 PM, said:

I think this all boils down to economics. The demand is here but buyers and sellers don't agree on the terms (and hence no add-on has been developed). The consensus I've gathered here is that the CS-Cart community wants an eBay add-on at a one-time price, with no monthly or long-term financial commitment to the project. Well guess what? Maintaining an ongoing, reliable connection with the eBay API is not that simple! It's a massive project to undertake for any developer, and it would be foolish to develop this add-on without some form of long-term commitment from the CS-Cart community.

Personally, I've decided to move forward with ExportYourStore.com. It's going to cost a fair amount upfront for what I need, and they will earn a recurring monthly fee out of me. However, the reality is I cant afford not to do business on eBay. Multichannel ecommerce is a reality and my competition has already beat me to it.

Quite honestly, when you look at the value of ExportYourStore vs. something even more outrageous like ChannelAdvisor, then it's a no-brainer.

I would rather pay an ongoing fee for something stable vs. an add-on that has the potential to break 6 months down the road and seriously impact my sales. Furthermore, who cares about the monthly fee (it's not that out of line). If you're a relatively successful business, the ROI should justify itself quite easily.

Just my two cents...

GREAT POST

"Maintaining an ongoing, reliable connection with the eBay API is not that simple! It's a massive project to undertake for any developer"

Spot on someone who understands clearly the importance of marketplaces to there existing business, 24th of April another Google wobble (sorry update) we have sailed though the all the recent updates but who knows what google has planned next time.

Eggs in baskets comes to mind.

this module for us is the last part of the puzzle I wouldn't to care to much if they never added any more features after the delivery of this one. I mean for several of our clients , yes some of them pay for channel advisor WOW expensive, these clients wont touch CS Cart with a 10 foot crappy stick as it wont integrate to multi channel, as one very large client stated, " Cart like that are going to be come less and less relevant, we are looking at magento"

OK its all been said now but i wil hammer it home again

Businesses ( successful ones) need to using multi channel
Carts that cater to more channels are more successful (CS Cart owners, admins your $$$$$) and they get more exposure, think of adding the post to eBay with CS Cart Link on every page, = how many new sales per month NO BRAINER
Magento piece of shit posts to eBay in a fashion
Build it as a paid add on with a yearly fee, people WILL PAY
Stop promising stuff you have no intention of delivering and then maybe a third party developer will step in and build it instead, however with the project marked as "PLANNED" only the very foolish would develop a solution and go up against the cart owners, own module.

LAST POINT , I seen it stated it not for the masses or not the majority of cart owners would not want this one.

"Over 25,000 online shops are powered by CS-Cart shopping cart software" Thats on the home page, lets say only 1 % are actual successful businesses. That are already doing multi channel or want to do,have the capacity to do.

Thats still 250 businesses that would , buy,use,need this mod, I am guessing it more likely + 10% though that have bothered to A set and run B successful online business that would want more sales that 2500 sales , purchases, yearly fees.

WAKE UP MULTI CHANNEL IS HERE TO STAY, Having a way to reduce time to list items across multiple channels delivers ROI simples.

[tbirnseth]

@clips - I doubt that SaaS will fade. From a business perspective, it's a great model.
I used to work for one of only 2 S&P AAA rated companies left in the US. 80% of their annual revenue was recurring revenue. I.e. if they never made another sale, 80% of their revenue would still occur ($B's).

I run a separate business that is a SaaS business and it's great to know that there is a revenue "stream". It allows me to provide better service to those customers and to develop new things that better serve those customers without having to continually say "oh, that's custom development, give me more money".

I extend my addons to meet some needs, but the incentive to do so is much less without a SaaS model.

[mrfoameruk]

ebay integration would be good. If anyone is in any doubt about ebays impact, my growth on ebay over the last year has been 1000 times better than the cscart website which I have now just pointing to our ebay shop. I was lucky if i got 10 sale per month with cs cart a year ago. With ebay I'm now doing 60 to 70 items per day (on average £5 per item). Since it brings in so much now the cart has not been developed anymore and i concentrate on ebay listings. I would like to be selling on my site so a multi channel route would help sales and increase profits hopefully. So I'll wait for it to materialise. fingers crossed

[jjtrottier]

tbirnseth, on 23 May 2012 - 11:59 PM, said:

@jjtrottier - Wow, where did you come from? A merchant who understands the issues with custom development, maintenance and cost of development? Unheard of on these forums.....

I'm somewhat of a developer myself so I can see things from both perspectives

[Lazy]

Hello Admin can you please update the community and the wider world on the status of this module ? If you have no intention of building this please mark as so, so that someone can step in and deliver what you guys are failing to.


Take a look at the image there http://www.storefeeder.com/Tour/ available channels notice the absence of CS Cart , behind even OS Commerce and POWA come on these are both sticky tape cart systems but I can still list live to eBay with either now



hang on whats this I see here?

http://www.cs-cart-c...-solutions.html

whois doesn't trace back to
Simbirsk Technologies Ltd

Admin is this one of yours ? or imposters

[ExportYourSore]

Since there is no eBay <-> Cs-Cart built integration,
we at ExportYourStore.com (a company that specialize in integration of e-commerce platforms with eBay and Amazon) got few requests to integrate CS-Cart with eBay.

We offer basic export of items from CS-Cart to eBay , as well custom and customized solutions for inventory and order synchronization between the two platforms.

We are working on a case-study with major CS-Cart seller.
Meanwhile you are welcome to take a look at our blog post about our CS-Cart-eBay integration services:
http://www.exportyou...rt-integration/

[Consultant]

Well, seems E-bay integration has been discussed for a year and a half now but no solutions? Pity.

I provide services for several small and mid-size business clients, many of them retailers. Thus far we have standardized on CS-Cart as a base platform for most of them. However, we are currently looking at the possibility of moving to Magento for E-bay AND Amazon integration.

Let me give you a higher level perspective on the major trend that is going to make integration with Ebay and Amazon a make or break feature for carts in the not to distant future (I'd say about 1.5 - 2 years).

My clients. many of whom have top 5 Google search engine rankings for most of their keywords, have been seeing over the past couple of years a very high growth in sales from Amazon.com and to a degree E-bay, but mainly Amazon.com. This is to the point where their Amazon.com sales have now exceeded their direct sales! We have done custom programming for inventory syncing and order import from Amazon, but it is far for a complete/integrated/clean solution. This trend with more and more businesses deriving the majority of their sales from Amazon Marketplace and E-bay is VERY important regarding the future of e-commerce platforms like CS-Cart.

Furthermore, E-Bay acquired Magento and formed X-Commerce. Remember E-bay also owns PayPal. There are two important results from this:

X-Commerce - One stop shopping for e-commerce development tools. It is most likely over the years X-commerce will become the standards for most e-commerce platforms.

https://www.x.com/

But most importantly, E-bay has formed a partnership with M2E Pro. It seems they probably did this because E-bay and Amazon are somewhat of competitors so E-bay/Magento probably cannot get permission from Amazon to develop Amazon Marketplace integration directly.

http://m2epro.com/

M2E Pro is in my opinion the CS-Cart killer (and pretty much the killer of any cart that does not have seamless direct integration with selling on BOTH E-bay AND Amazon.com in the near future.)

The fact M2E Pro already has E-bay integration and says Amazon.com integration will be this month and CS-Cart has just been discussing it for 18 months is very worrisome to me as a CS-Cart customer.

Smaller merchants that don't integrate their selling with E-bay and Amazon will most likely stagnate, contract, or go out of business. The e-commerce platforms that allow them to do this most easily, and comprehensively will be the winners.

If we don't see any significant movement with E-bay and Amazon.com integration in the next 2 or 3 months, we will begin migrating all our CS-Cart sites to Magento or possibly writing our own add-ons and charging you all an arm and a leg for it. LOL.

[Lazy]

Consultant knows the score , we have similar projects we have custom built for clients regarding export all order details. CS Cart suck badly over this and as much as I hate magento and m2epro looks like we will have to leave CS Cart as well, for anyone commenting on this thread saying oh it isnt that important I would just like to say F**K OFF and comment somewhere else.

CS Cart team started this thread and now are to ignorant to even bother to post a reply, let users know you dont give a shit about eBay integration and then they can make an informed choice. Dont keep paying users waiting on a promise and then do nothing.

[Paul John]

I was about to start paying for cs cart but I am not that certain anymore.
Consultants comments are spot on and I thank him for taking the time to post some very valid points.

I would be willing to pay for a robust integration with ebay and amazon without having to depend on 3rd party services.

[enter: exportyourstore sales pitch]

[Consultant]

Top thread with 7 pages. Someone over at Simbrisk has to start getting the message. This is a larger issue than just E-bay. I am expanding and continuing this discussion here:

http://forum.cs-cart...prestashop-etc/

[kmolchanov]

Hello everyone,

This is an official statement: Amazon & eBay integration will be developed.

After taking a closer look at this task and accurately weighing all the pros and cons we have eventually come to the decision no to drop the development of this functionality as we have earlier.

We would like to apologize for the long delay we had to take in the development. Developing CS-Cart 3 was a real challenge and we had to prioritize properly in order to succeed with it, so Amazon & eBay integration had to be put off.

The details will be disclosed later. It will probably be a paid annual subscription-based module.

We have started working on the scope statement, and as soon as it is finished we will be able to announce the estimated release date.

[Lazy]

Hallelujah praise the lord

will it be ready by next week ??? JK

thank you for making your product offering not only better but for helping your clients make more money.