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Poll: Do you think it is good and do you help against this villainous? (5 member(s) have cast votes)

Do you think it is good and do you help against this villainous?

  1. Yes (13 votes [92.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 92.86%

  2. No (1 votes [7.14%])

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  • Triplex
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 08:08 AM #1

Maybe not all of you know what is a "nulled scripts", it is s ascript like cs-cart they have delete all securitys like callback ect. that they dont must pay for the shop.

What are the cons for all custumers?

Sure in a time cant pay the developing costs. Now i will fight with you one time in the week against the nulled forums and website. Wich day it is can you choose.

Take time half hous in week to destroy the links, that other downloader cant download the ILLEGAL sources of cs-cart.

What you must to do!?

Search in google for "nulled cs-cart", "cs-cart nulled" "nuller cs-cart" , "nulled cs-cart 2.0.10" "nulled cs-cart 2.0.11" "nulled cs-cart 2.0.12" "cs-cart nulled 2.0.13" "cs-cart nulled 2.0.14" "cs-cart null 2.0.15" and brandNew will cooming soon release "cs-cart 2.1"

and so on, and this follow tags are for the search engine, that the forum will get some more traffic ;-)

nulled cs-cart 2.0.13, nulled cs-cart 2.0.14, nulled cs-cart 2.0.15

All guest you can here buy a legal cs-cart version, it isnt nulled, but for what you need a nulled version if you will made a successfully business? Also buy it here http://www.cs-cart.com/order_now.html ;-)

so now you have searched and fin the links, mabe you must register on a forum or so that you see the download link. Now you contact the webhoster e.g. Rapidshare that they have an illegal copyrighted software on the server and they should please delete the source and should send you a agree message.

Thats all, and maybe maybe we can help cs-cart to made it more successfully that is is. Because it is unfair if any other people use this script, the dev-team have to lot of work and get nothig for it. The developing costs are to expensive and the return over is to less. This is the result if to many customers use a script and dont pay.

Please consider if you help against this villainous!

 
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 10:29 AM #2

Some of my friends are using nulled version for cscart and xcart both. Basically nulled version is risky for cc payment.

By the way your script can't hide from hackers. They will find the source and burn your hard work.
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 02:39 PM #3

I do my part. I get tons of requests on www.cscart-usa.com for help. I verify with CS the license is legit before doing any installation service.

Not too mention some behind the scenes things I do for CS with regards to this. :-)
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 03:03 PM #4

Well for testing purposes nulled was good, but now cs-cart trial 60days version is available.
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 03:19 PM #5

We will help in the fight against "Nuller" and nulled stores to be removed from the web.

But the main problem is, that CS-Cart doesn't need to be nulled (if I'm wrong please correct me). CS-Cart script doesn't contain any callbacks except the "Upgrade" section where the license code is needed just for verification if the script is allowed to be upgraded or not.

Maybe you have noticed that the trial version works without a license code after the trial period still very well. I think the code should be encoded in common script files except of template files (.tpl). Then the regular customer will be ebale to make design changes and hooks inside of those files but not in script files.

Here a first list of links which provides downloads of "nulled" CS-Cart:

We will help in the fight against "Nuller" and nulled stores to be removed from the web.

But the main problem is, that CS-Cart doesn't need to be nulled (if I'm wrong please correct me). CS-Cart script doesn't contain any callbacks except the "Upgrade" section where the license code is needed just for verification if the script is allowed to be upgraded or not.

Maybe you have noticed that the trial version works without a license code after the trial period still very well. I think the code should be encoded in common script files except of template files (.tpl). Then the regular customer will be ebale to make design changes and hooks inside of those files but not in script files.

Here are common links which provides download of "nulled" CS-Cart:

http://scriptmafia.org
http://www.sharemafia.com
http://nulled2.net

The main provider is scriptmafia.org, and other downloads on other sites are just doubles. Then, there are two nick names known as "Nuller of CS-Cart":

KenDesign
sikvdila

On the other site, maybe we should leave those people who propagate nulled versions and find people or stores which use nulled versions and make a offer like: "You can buy a license and use your store in the future, or your domain or store will be reported by your hosting provider as illegal.

But I don't know how it works in China and other asian countries. And I think, there are the most people who use illegal software and scripts.

Let's go in the "First CS-Cart World War"!
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 03:38 PM #6

Nice and very good usefull comments, maybe for cs-cart too that they know more about that all.

Also i think it have callbacks in the install routine. If i were the developer, i would install a callback, because that nobody can steal my work for free!

Therefore, what do you mean, why nuller must nulled the cs-cart version if the trial can used for free. Also the trial have security mechanism.

But very well that many people are against for it, because remember about it, it cost´s our money if other have the shop for free!!!

 
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 04:03 PM #7

Triplex said:

Also i think it have callbacks in the install routine...
Therefore, what do you mean, why nuller must nulled the cs-cart version if the trial can used for free. Also the trial have security mechanism.
I have compared the code of previous version 2.0.8; nulled + trial. There were no major difficulties between the code except some things added by the nuller to promote himself. I can remember something was changed in the install file, but I think it wasn't a callback.

The check of callbacks can be done very easy so, if you have installed local server on your machine:

Just disable all your internet connections on your computer and try to install it on your local machine. If you will get some errors like "can not connect to http.... or something similar, then there is a callback.
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 06:53 PM #8

If CS-Cart start to design source protection then I will commence looking for other applications.

The BEST part of CS-Cart is that it shows every portion of the code available to the developer. Apart from one exception (Admin call back for statistics) should I see a base encode string I know it's not supposed to be there. So accordingly it beefs security for me while allowing me to code modifications without having to go back the developers every week.

Overall -> Nullers will be Nullers and their target market is no/low-income groups. If one would prefer not to purchase the script irrelative of whether or not they have the money then they will never become a consumer anyway.

A large majority of people have obviously downloaded a null script at one point or another (I have) It's all about "education" about the product that makes it attractive. Why else would they download it?

Of course you may ask that I:
-> Dump $500 AUD into an offshore product where I'm not 100% sure of what it can do for me or if I will be entitled to a refund
-> Review ionCube encoding which tells me nothing about the code quality and since it's encoded I've got to have my host install IonCube as well.
-> Purchase the product after being satisfied with the demo however not being able to fully utilize the product due to it's sloppy coding (oxylus flash) once I receive the product.

If anything CS-Cart should charge differently depending on the market. The USD is VERY low compared to where it was last April against the AUD however imagine USD to RUB?

 
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 07:07 PM #9

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If CS-Cart start to design source protection then I will commence looking for other applications.

The BEST part of CS-Cart is that it shows every portion of the code available to the developer. Apart from one exception (Admin call back for statistics) should I see a base encode string I know it's not supposed to be there. So accordingly it beefs security for me while allowing me to code modifications without having to go back the developers every week.

Overall -> Nullers will be Nullers and their target market is no/low-income groups. If one would prefer not to purchase the script irrelative of whether or not they have the money then they will never become a consumer anyway.

A large majority of people have obviously downloaded a null script at one point or another (I have) It's all about "education" about the product that makes it attractive. Why else would they download it?

Of course you may ask that I:
-> Dump $500 AUD into an offshore product where I'm not 100% sure of what it can do for me or if I will be entitled to a refund
-> Review ionCube encoding which tells me nothing about the code quality and since it's encoded I've got to have my host install IonCube as well.
-> Purchase the product after being satisfied with the demo however not being able to fully utilize the product due to it's sloppy coding (oxylus flash) once I receive the product.

If anything CS-Cart should charge differently depending on the market. The USD is VERY low compared to where it was last April against the AUD however imagine USD to RUB?

market is no/low-income groups... i mean not the same... by the way.

I havent mean that Cs-cart should safe the code with new protections. i only think if we have some time and work together we can go against the nullers! If you understand what i mean.

I like the opensource too, and really its awesome for the coder!

 
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Posted 28 January 2010 - 08:36 AM #10

I think cscart should also have a clear stand on how it deals with sites that uses the cscart nulled scripts. Even if the site using the nulled script belong to countries that have no legislation rules against such, by approaching the hosting companies that host these sites (of course unless self hosted on own server), cscart legal team could ask the hosting companies to take down these sites/accounts from their servers.

I believe most legit hosting companies will comply.

I think this thread should be moved to a section of the forum where only licensed users can access. Or else removed the links to where you can find those nulled scripts, else it's almost providing free advertising to those forums and also inform would-be buyers who might not have a clue on "nulled scripts" to explore that area.

I've recently mentioned via helpdesk to cscart, a couple of sites which I suspect might be using a cscart nulled script after monitoring them for a long period of time. Those sites are using the nulled script for production, not testing. But until now, those sites are still in operation as far as I can see. Though cscart helpdesk did reply saying that they will look into the matter.
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Posted 28 January 2010 - 02:20 PM #11

CS is well aware of many of these sites and discussions are ongoing about what actions to take.
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Posted 28 January 2010 - 02:21 PM #12

What you mean with discussions are ongoing?

 
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Posted 28 January 2010 - 02:35 PM #13

internal discussions.
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Posted 28 January 2010 - 03:10 PM #14

Just my own personal opinion I guess, but this thread is kind of funny.

I mean you can get almost all software, any movie, any tv show, and any music online any day of the week. Of course CS-Cart is out there as well. Shoot even ****py software is out there for download.

It's not going anywhere any time soon. The music and movie industries have been trying to curb this down for years and have spent tons and tons of money on it and still a big fat load of nothing. Although Mininova did get closed down which sucks. Of course with Mininova closed it just allows more room for every other site, and there are a lot of them out there.

Anyways, the fact is, you can spend every day trying to find and tell about nulled scripts, but it won't matter. Even if CS-Cart puts some type of security stuff in their software, hackers will still break it. It's just the name of the game.

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 04:17 PM #15

O.k. it is fun but not only fun. I think if you dont do anything against then all can do what they want. Also if we do something against the nullers and sharers then we can achieve something.

Yeaaaahhh we did it, first site on google with "Cs-Cart nulled" *lol*

 
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Posted 19 February 2010 - 03:39 AM #16

http://sitevang.com/GL/index.php
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http://www.albashop.ch
http://loveaccessorizethis.com
http://www.specialphoneshop.nl/
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Posted 19 February 2010 - 05:26 AM #17

This either was one or at least it wasnt' a legit store which is just as bad.

http://www.kpappliances.com

Got to run though, Survivor just got done downloading....

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 06:33 AM #18

I agree with the first post.
We are verifying all licenses before delivering any modules, addons, templates or making any custom work.
The customers without a valid cs-cart license are redirected to the cs-cart's license manager.
Is this why sometimes there is a delay on the orders processing.
We have requested from cs-cart to make a page (the access can be with authentification) where the licenses can be verified shortly based on the entered domain name.
We all must protect the licenses and respect the cs-cart's developers work.
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Posted 19 February 2010 - 11:39 AM #19

... probably chosen wrong forum :D

http://forum.cs-cart...74875#post74875
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Posted 19 February 2010 - 01:02 PM #20

I take my humour seriously :cool:

indy0077 said:

... probably chosen wrong forum :D

http://forum.cs-cart...74875#post74875